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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    MKW:

    surprising how you can hear the turbo whine on roll away ...kinda cheapens the sound 

    I agree - its remarkable how loud that turbo whine is. I'm still getting used to the new rear slats, but the design overall is a real success.

     

     

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    crayphile:
    MKW:

    surprising how you can hear the turbo whine on roll away ...kinda cheapens the sound 

    I agree - its remarkable how loud that turbo whine is. I'm still getting used to the new rear slats, but the design overall is a real success.

     

     

     

    I like everything on the rear, including the rear slats, it gives a classic look Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    I also think that the rear slats ( vertical, and little recessed) are a very attractive design detail and a clever variation too in the "same but different"  category. I like the lights very much and the bumper vents.

    I am not enthusiastic about the front bumper design, however.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Atzporsche:

    Oh I love it! The sound, the looks and the color too! 

    They improved the sound to provide a slightly higher pitch instead of the standard deeper growl after not so satisfying feedback but keep in mind that this is the sport exhaust version and the moment the car gets slightly over idle, the sound isn't that good anymore. Also, between 30 and 70 kph, the same old story with the sound cut-down for regal reasons. So basically, the flaps are open up to 30 kph, then they close from 30 and 70kph and they open, depending on rev figure and speed above 70 kph. 

    It sounds better than the M4 though, this seems to be sure and the sound from the inside is not artificially amplified through the loudspeakers of the HiFi system (but the car has two sound symposers which lead the sound from the engine bay inside the car).

    I am more curious how the next 911 generation will be, with flap operated exhaust being banned (according to pending regulations due around 2016). This will be a challenge!


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    RC: "I am more curious how the next 911 generation will be, with flap operated exhaust being banned (according to pending regulations due around 2016). This will be a challenge!"

    That could be an easy fix in VW group... Smiley just install a software that checks if the car is tested Smiley

    Sorry, I couldn't resist! Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Pentium:

    RC: "I am more curious how the next 911 generation will be, with flap operated exhaust being banned (according to pending regulations due around 2016). This will be a challenge!"

    That could be an easy fix in VW group... Smiley just install a software that checks if the car is tested Smiley

    Sorry, I couldn't resist! Smiley

    These times are over. I am however pretty sure that there are going to be other loopholes, hopefully legal ones.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Grant:

    I saw/heard the car too in Zuffenhausen.  Looks great, but sounds quite tame compared to 991.1

    I would still consider it though - would need to drive first...

    It's been getting worse, the more it keeps on evolving Smiley

    The perfect 911

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LccE0tlPbLg


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    991.2 World presentation will made in Estoril between 1 and 15 December, I can say it will be party in the house  Smiley  Smiley Back in 2004 the 997 was also presented here, those 15 days were glorious as you could see dozens & dozens of 911 everywhere making test drives and lots of cocktails, dinners and special events occurred too.

    The place is wonderful for an event like this, great mountain roads in Sintra all over the place with few traffic, more than 40kms of roads next to Atlantic ocean with great views from Lisbon , Estoril and Cascais and brand new highways to stretch the 911 legs Smiley

    http://expresso.sapo.pt/economia/2015-10-09-E-em-Portugal-que-a-Porsche-vai-apresentar-o-seu-icone


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Home sweet home!


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Any infos regarding the press release of the 991.2 Turbo? Since many claimed it will arrive before 2016. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    RS 991:

    Any infos regarding the press release of the 991.2 Turbo? Since many claimed it will arrive before 2016. 

    Maybe LA motor show this November. Or perhaps Detroit in January Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    RS 991:

    Any infos regarding the press release of the 991.2 Turbo? Since many claimed it will arrive before 2016. 

    Should be announced soon (meaning: within a two months time frame).


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    RC:
    RS 991:

    Any infos regarding the press release of the 991.2 Turbo? Since many claimed it will arrive before 2016. 

    Should be announced soon (meaning: within a two months time frame).

    my Austrian PC has first allocations for March production. demo cars will be built in February, according to them.

    p


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    My P source told me late November for web intro. Start of production as Peter wrote.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    KresoF1:

    My P source told me late November for web intro. Start of production as Peter wrote.

    Do we have final specs understanding? 600 hp and faster than Huracan for sure?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    turbo S 580 hp (european units) , 700Nm, 750NM overboost.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    pmarkow:

    turbo S 580 hp (european units) , 700Nm, 750NM overboost.

    Оооо, not very good... Limitations said itsword.... So we wait for 992 turbo s.... And now 991.2 tts is not capable to beat the conpetition? Will it be faster than huracan or not pls say?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    artur777:
    pmarkow:

    turbo S 580 hp (european units) , 700Nm, 750NM overboost.

    Оооо, not very good... Limitations said itsword.... So we wait for 992 turbo s.... And now 991.2 tts is not capable to beat the conpetition? Will it be faster than huracan or not pls say?

    don't know, but it is pretty fast already. IMHO it does and will not suffer lack of pace, rather lack of driver involvement.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Would a 20 hp bump on TTS even make a difference?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Tony007:

    Would a 20 hp bump on TTS even make a difference?

    No, but electric turbocharger(s) might make response much better.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    What is torque comparison between the 991.1 and 991.2 Turbo S?

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Grant:
    Tony007:

    Would a 20 hp bump on TTS even make a difference?

    No, but electric turbocharger(s) might make response much better.

    Aren't we supposed to be getting vtg's in 991.2 TTS?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Does the 991.2 (not TT) use vtg's?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    991.2 Carrera does not have VTG chargers, only 991 Turbo and Turbo S, facelift will very likely have them too but next generation engine will say good-bye to VTG chargers. Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Grant:
    Tony007:

    Would a 20 hp bump on TTS even make a difference?

    No, but electric turbocharger(s) might make response much better.

    they will be installed in 992 turbo models. 991.2 tts is just an improvement over 991.1 tts. unlike carrera where 991.2 is major change to 991.1 carrera.... so I dont expect any super high results from 991.2 tts


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    KresoF1:

    My P source told me late November for web intro. Start of production as Peter wrote.

    ThanksSmiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Wonderbar:

    What is torque comparison between the 991.1 and 991.2 Turbo S?

     

    equal

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    pmarkow:
    Wonderbar:

    What is torque comparison between the 991.1 and 991.2 Turbo S?

     

    equal

     

    Due to current PDK limit of 800Nm (safety margin).


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Sounds like the .2 TTS is going to be a dud


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Tony007:

    Sounds like the .2 TTS is going to be a dud

    i think it will be a very fast and accomplished car. everybody needs to decide for him/herself how much driver involvement is needed.

    peter


     
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