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    Buying a Ferrari at MSRP

    Hey all,

    So, the idea of buying a Ferrari down the road is rolling around in my head. For those in the U.S., will a dealer sell to me at MSRP if I wait for the 360 sucessor and place my deposit now? The dealers here in Southern California want a pretty sum over list price. I had previously heard that most will not sell to you at list unless you have established a relationship with them in the past.

    All thoughts welcome.

    Re: Buying a Ferrari at MSRP

    As far as I know, if you get on the list, the dealer can only sell the car to you at MSRP (FNA policy). If they put you on the list is another matter. They are very wary of people turning around and selling the car for more profit than Ferrari and the dealer themselves make. So, the best thing is to buy a used Ferrari and trade in the car when its your turn (in 3-4 years)

    Justin unless you have been a good customer with a Ferrari

    dealer the likelihood of you getting a 360 or its replacement is next to nothing. They have long time customers that get priority treatment.

    Since a dealer cannot sell above MSRP typically they have "used" F-cars and sell them at a premium above MSRP. If you buy from the dealer then you have a chance to get on the list. Or you can buy a new Maserati at MSRP and they probably would put you on the list for the 360/replacement.

    Understand that being on the list does not assure you have a spot to buy the replacement for the 360. It all depends if the prior good customers like and want the car. If so you would be lucky to get an opportunity to order one even though you are on the list. This is as a result of limited production. Only so many to go around to the dealers.

    Re: Justin unless you have been a good customer with a Ferrari

    Thank you for the replies.

    Too many people want Ferraris! BTW, I am not necessarily looking for a new car. I just have a hard time justifying over MSRP purchases. Aston appeals to me more right now, but friends are telling me to look into a Ferrari as well. What about the 355? Mistake to not spend more for the 360?

    One last question for NBerry. What are your favorite driving roads in San Diego? You must know a few to give your 360 spider a proper workout.

    Thanks again,
    Justin

    Justin...

    Sometimes it pays off to know some Ferrari owners and/or especially "influencial" members of the local Ferrari Club (if there is one). Buying a used Ferrari at a local Ferrari dealer might be a good start to enter the Ferraristi "family".
    Seems to be easier in Europe though...you guys in the US have too much money.

    The real reason

    The truth is, we think we can drive fast sports cars well! Some of us can, but most of us cannot (me). I'm going to try and get out to Willow Springs this summer to change that though.

    Re: The real reason

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    The truth is, we think we can drive fast sports cars well! Some of us can, but most of us cannot (me). I'm going to try and get out to Willow Springs this summer to change that though.



    Well, the truth is: most people I know think they can drive and most can't. I seldom encountered somebody to outrun me (well, if I count out CR and his reckless driving style...win or bust ) and I'm really not a professional driver.
    A lot of people think that a fast car makes them fast but actually only extensive training and experience make fast.
    I have a friend who I never could outrun, not in the past and not now. BUT...he had 5 accidents in the past 20 years (one put him one month into the hospital), I had none. It is not enough to be fast, it is very important to know your limits, to think for the other drivers too (because they make mistakes) and to always leave a safety margin for those moments when [oops] happens when it actually shouldn't happen.

    Re: The real reason

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    I have a friend who I never could outrun, not in the past and not now. BUT...he had 5 accidents in the past 20 years (one put him one month into the hospital), I had none.



    Do we mean outrun on a race track or on public roads? It seems to me that outrunning on public roads half has to do with skill and the other half is insanity. A race track is where you can really tell who's got the right stuff.

    Re: The real reason

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    I have a friend who I never could outrun, not in the past and not now. BUT...he had 5 accidents in the past 20 years (one put him one month into the hospital), I had none.



    Do we mean outrun on a race track or on public roads? It seems to me that outrunning on public roads half has to do with skill and the other half is insanity. A race track is where you can really tell who's got the right stuff.



    I would lie if I say that we're talking about the race track only.
    The thing is that over here in Germany, young people in fast cars usually drive pretty reckless. Despite this fact, the accident figure in Germany is one of the best (less accidents) in whole Europe and we don't have a speed limit on the Autobahn. Reason? Driver education is pretty good over here and very expensive too.
    And I agree with you: there is a lot of luck involved in street racing and what worries me most is that people who are not participating might be involved in an accident.
    Now at age 38 things seems pretty clear to me but at age 18-25, I wasn't thinking too much and my right foot was always faster than my brain.

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    I have a friend who I never could outrun, not in the past and not now. BUT...he had 5 accidents in the past 20 years (one put him one month into the hospital), I had none.



    Do we mean outrun on a race track or on public roads? It seems to me that outrunning on public roads half has to do with skill and the other half is insanity. A race track is where you can really tell who's got the right stuff.



    I would lie if I say that we're talking about the race track only.
    The thing is that over here in Germany, young people in fast cars usually drive pretty reckless. Despite this fact, the accident figure in Germany is one of the best (less accidents) in whole Europe and we don't have a speed limit on the Autobahn. Reason? Driver education is pretty good over here and very expensive too.
    And I agree with you: there is a lot of luck involved in street racing and what worries me most is that people who are not participating might be involved in an accident.
    Now at age 38 things seems pretty clear to me but at age 18-25, I wasn't thinking too much and my right foot was always faster than my brain.



    Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to pass judgment, merely state what is a better indicator of skill

    I quote the same stuff you just did in the post above mine as to what is wrong with American roads. People don't know how to drive or even how to use the left lane on a highway over here. This is what causes accidents, not speed. I wish we had an American autobahn where they understood what is important. The more I drive, the more I think every driver should be able to get around a racetrack under a certain time in a certain car. Not to make them fast, but just to make sure they are comfortable when they get to the limits. You need to slide to avoid a slide or save yourself from one. This isn't too complicated.

    Re: Justin unless you have been a good customer with a Ferrari

    nberry,
    As I went for my Sunday drive on San Deguito Rd. I spotted a silver 360 spider, and thought that it was a nice thing to see on the open road. A few moments later I spotted another, but this time it was yellow. Was it you?

    - Justin

     
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