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    Lap Times from the 'Ring

    These are from www.supercars.net. www.nurburgring.de also posts times going back to the 1930's.

    7:28 --- 166.652 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, Walther Röhrl,(Autobild July 2004)

    7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, definitive time Horst Von Saurma (sport auto 01/2004)

    7:32.52 163.882 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 2001) >>> http://www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html

    7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 hp, Michelin Sport Cup R , Mattias Ekblom

    7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (2002)

    7:39 --- 161.575 km/h - Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, >>> http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/articles.asp?news=91&page=&type=news

    7:40* -- 161.217 km/h - Corvette Z06 Blue Devil, 600 PS/ 1419.7 kg (estimated), Jan Magnusen (AutoBild 7/2005) (*mfr.), >>> http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=0&tID=44953

    7:40* -- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/2003)

    7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche GT3 RS, stock but Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Mattias Ekblom (ams)

    7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig (Autobild 07/2004)

    7:41 --- 160.868 km/h - Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/2004) >>> http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextshopcms/cmspdf.asp?id=217

    7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa, 2004 (according to dailysportscar.net)

    7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (2002)

    7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street, 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/2002)7:43 --- 160.173 km/h --
    Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Röhrl (MOTOR Magazine)

    7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 2002)

    7:44 --- 159.828 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 07/2002)

    7:45 --- 159.484 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600hp (2000)

    7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at >>> www.pistonheads.tv

    7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/2001)

    7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine 07/200), >>> http://www.jwhubbers.nl/ring/docs/evo-0007-7.jpg

    7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652hp (sport auto 1999)

    7:47 --- 158.801 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381hp (sport auto 03/2004)

    7.49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche GT3, 392hp (AutoBild 2004) http://www.autobild.de/tuning/testberichte/artikel.php?artikel_id=7274&artikel_seite=4

    7:49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/1999)

    7:49.72 157.885 km/h -- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne 1993 (moto bike)

    7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL (sport auto 08/2003)

    7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Blitz Supra, 750hp, Herbert Schürg (1997)

    7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/2002)

    7:50 --- 157.787 km/h - Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine, >>> http://nurburgring.free.fr/Vids/Bren_Westie_Whooo_Divx504_1_350.avi

    7:52 --- 157.119 km/h - BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg, >>> http://www.rhein-main.net/sixcms/detail.pPS/1879435?topic_id=731907

    7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 1995)

    7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (sport auto 12/2003)

    7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/2004)

    7:54 --- 156.456 km/h - Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582bPS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/2005), >>> http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=27415

    7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/2003)

    7:55 --- 156.126 km/h -- Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/2000)

    7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/2004)

    7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/2000)

    7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette C6 (company test driver Dave Hill)

    7:57 --- 155.472 km/h -- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/1998)

    7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting "Performance", (Walter Röhrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)

    7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 1997)

    8:02 --- 154.338 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting "Sport", (Walter Röhrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)

    8:03 --- 153.540 km/h -- Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/1999)

    8:04 --- 153.223 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/2000)

    8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/2002)

    8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM settino "Standard", Walter Röhrl (WHEELS 06/2004)

    8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/2005), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=36440

    8:05 --- 152.907 km/h - Ruf CTR, >>> http://www.lad.lv/~martini/porsche/Videos/RUF-CTR_Nurburgring1.wmv

    8:06 --- 152.592 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/2002)

    8:06 --- 152.592 km/h -- Caterham 7 Superlight R, Robert Nearn

    8:07 --- 152.279 km/h - Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/1998)

    8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/2002)

    8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/1999)

    8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/1997)

    8:10 --- 151.114 km/h - Aston Martin V8 Vantage (Top Gear feb,2005)

    8:10 --- 151.114 km/h -- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/1997)

    8:10 --- 151.347 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 180R, 210 PS/650 kg (sport auto 03/2001)

    8:11* -- 151,274 km/h - Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/2005)

    8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/2002)

    8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/1997)

    8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo works tuning (sport auto 06/1997)

    8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/2004), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=13956

    8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/1999)

    8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 hp (sport auto, 10/2004)

    8:14 --- 150.120 km/h - Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/2005), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=23337

    8:15 --- 149.818 km/h - Alpina Roadster S, 300 PS/1416 kg (sport auto 6/2005), >>> http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=44295

    8:15* -- 149.818 km/h -- Holden GTS (2000), *estimated

    8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera 2 (Walter Röhrl - WHEELS 06/2004)

    8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Ruf 911 CTR 2, 520 hp

    8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 PS (sport auto 11/1997)

    8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer V8 Topster, 450 PS/1557kg (sport auto 01/2005) http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=18724

    8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- Aston Martin DB9, 457hp (sport auto 11/2004) http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=10114

    8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (best motoring video 14)

    8:17 --- 149.215 km/h -- Aston Martin V12 Vanquish, 515 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 01/2003)

    8:17 --- 149.215 km/h -- Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/2001)

    8:17 --- 149.215 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera 2, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 02/2001)

    8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- BMW Z8, 400PS/1651 kg (sport auto 08/2000)

    8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)

    8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/1997)

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    Does anybody know the lap time for the F430?

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    Sorry to say, I couldnt find one. I am sure that one of the German auto magazines will do a test soon.

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    thanks for the awesome list jim!!

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    Lap time on Italian track in Vairano(PV)( from 4R Italian magazine):


    Carrera GT 1' 17" 349
    Ferrari Enzo 1' 17" 448
    Murciélago 1' 19" 840

    I have also the time of 430 in the same track,but now I'm not at my home,perhaps tomorrow I'm loking for it and then I will post.

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    Other lap time from Vairano(Italy)

    997 S Pasm sport 1'20"737

    Maserati Gransport 1'22"716

    BMW M68507Hp) 1'22"157

    BMW M5(507 Hp) 1'22"141

    612 Scaglietti F1 1'22"102

    575m Maranello F1 1'21"553

    Aston Martin DB9 Coupé 1'22"184

    SL 55K AMG Perf. 1'24"012

    SLK 55 AMG (7G Tronic gearbox) 1'23"819

    Dodge Viper spider (506 Hp) 1'21"409

    Nissan 350Z coupé 1'24"397

    BMW Z4 3.0 1'24"675

    Chrysler Crossfire 3.3 coupé 1'26"057

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    So much for the "improvements" made to the M6 to justify its much higher price over the M5 (carbon fiber roof, less weight, lower suspension, etc...)

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    I believe the Matheny Porsche had a much better time. A lot of your times seem accurate, but a more complete and regularly updated list is here:
    Supercars Times List [updated upon confirmed times]

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    Interesting also that the 996 3.6L with Horst V. Saurma driving is only two seconds slower than a 997 driven by Walter Rohl. Maybe the 996 would've even been faster than 997 if driven by WR...

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    Does anybody know the lap times of any LeMans cars on the N'ring?

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    The last ones to run in the 20km north loop of ring before it was closed and passed over to the new short ring GP track was in 1983, were the Group C Porsche 956 of Stephan Bellof did a 6:11

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    Phil Bennett 7:19 in a road-legal Radical in 2003

    And, supposedly a privately-run Donkervoort, weighing 650kg and having a 400bhp turbocharged Audi V6, achieved a 7:18 lap in less-than-ideal conditions in 2004.

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

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    Carlos from Spain said:
    The last ones to run in the 20km north loop of ring before it was closed and passed over to the new short ring GP track was in 1983, were the Group C Porsche 956 of Stephan Bellof did a 6:11




    6:11??? Jesus christ! what did he have? A 956 (helicopter)?

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    Fastest lap "ever" recorded in the ring

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    Carlos, how long do you think id take an F1 car to lap the ring?

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    That would be really hard to say because a modern Formula One car would be really hard to nearly imposible to set up for the ring since its such a long changing track with a surface thats to bumpy and rough for a F1 car and too many varying condition for one particular setup. So they would perform much worse at the ring than on a normal GP track were we have a reference of their performance.
    The north loop of the ring was actually closed for GP racing when Nicky Lauda had a terrible accident in his F1 car in 1976, after that they stared building the GP section were the Nurburgring GP is now held. BUt the fastest F1 lap I know of is Nicky Lauda's 1975 lap in his F1 of 6:58, though the track was 2km longer back then (in 1983 the track was remodeled for the new track).

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    Would around 5:30 be realistic?

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

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    Ryan in SD said:
    Quote:
    Carlos from Spain said:
    The last ones to run in the 20km north loop of ring before it was closed and passed over to the new short ring GP track was in 1983, were the Group C Porsche 956 of Stephan Bellof did a 6:11




    6:11??? Jesus christ! what did he have? A 956 (helicopter)?



    Bellof did it on the short Ring. 20.835 metres as opposed to the 22.830 meters of the "long ring" today.
    So 2km shorter. Thats why they dont use it very much as reference today.
    The difference is the long straight on the finish/start area.

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    I don't know, I wouldn't dare to even guess

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    Thats some intresting factoids.

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    Quote:
    Dr. Phil said:
    Quote:
    Ryan in SD said:
    Quote:
    Carlos from Spain said:
    The last ones to run in the 20km north loop of ring before it was closed and passed over to the new short ring GP track was in 1983, were the Group C Porsche 956 of Stephan Bellof did a 6:11




    6:11??? Jesus christ! what did he have? A 956 (helicopter)?



    Bellof did it on the short Ring. 20.835 metres as opposed to the 22.830 meters of the "long ring" today.
    So 2km shorter. Thats why they dont use it very much as reference today.
    The difference is the long straight on the finish/start area.



    No, the 20,8Km is the actual legth of the ring. The 22km track was the old version predating 1983. And while Bellof's lap was not exactly the same course as the current 20,8Km tract becuase of the work going on the new track at the same time as the GP in which practice session he did the 6:11 (they changed a bit of the course due to the repairs/work), it was still the same overall legth as the actual 20,8Km. Thats why some don't regard it as fair refernce, becuase the course was changed slightly during that year, but the legth was still the same.

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    Agree with your point on F1 cars...I think a better car to crack the all time record would be an Audi R8 running without restrictors.

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    One more time needs to be added to that list - 10.08 for a diesel powered Ford Transit Van!

    During the last series of Top Gear, Clarkson raced round the ring in a diesel S Type Jaguar, and was over the moon to make it in just under 10 minutes. But his professional female instructor wasn't impressed, saying she could beat that time "in a van". So they put it to the test last weekend.

    Very amusing watching the Transit van, driven by a girl, fly round, taking a few Porsches and bikes, but sadly she just missed the 10min mark - but not bad for something that does 0-60mph in something like 20secs...

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    It will be very hard to break the all time record set by the Porsche 956. The R8 is a great race car but it doesn't have full ground effects like the Group C cars. That is what is needed to keep the car glued to the track. I do remember a Ring site that stated a year back when Ferrari was doing a photo op there that Schumie tried to break the record. It was in his current F1 car and he got to within a couple seconds of the record. I was never able to find this story again on the site. Maybe it was bull. In any event it would take a SUPER race car to even come close to Porsche.

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    Quote:
    njw said:
    One more time needs to be added to that list - 10.08 for a diesel powered Ford Transit Van!

    But his professional female instructor wasn't impressed, saying she could beat that time "in a van". So they put it to the test last weekend.

    Very amusing watching the Transit van, driven by a girl, fly round, taking a few Porsches and bikes, but sadly she just missed the 10min mark - but not bad for something that does 0-60mph in something like 20secs...



    The anonymous lady is named Sabine Schmidt. She really had that Transit moving!

    Now, if it had been on Pirelli Corsas ............

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    JimFlat6,

    Thank you for posting the "Ring" lap times.

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    Quote:
    njw said:
    One more time needs to be added to that list - 10.08 for a diesel powered Ford Transit Van!





    Yes, that's legendary - reminds me of my first lap as a young student with zero NS-experience in a 34 HP Renault R4 with two buddies as passengers - LoL I think it has been something like 16 minutes. Was more like a merry go round with ever squeaking tyres and a body rolling like the back of a camel The only special suspension set-up was my rather fat bud on the rear bench throwing his body into the curves' outer side in order to stabilize the car

    Agree with Carlos on his comment regarding modern F1 cars - it would be impossible to find a reasonable set up for the old NS.

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    In the latest issue of SA:
    CCR - 7:34
    Opel Astra OPC - 8:35,93 (driver:Manuel Reuter)

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    That Astra OPC time is way too optimistic but, GM did that before...

    Re: Lap Times from the 'Ring

    No problem HHG.

    Emjoy your new Cayman!

     
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