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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    With the GT4 you will smile every time. And feel manly about it.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0GtH7PC6AA

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    SciFrog:

    Will be flamed for this but won't be the first or last time...

    Since the regular 991.2 now has PDK and a turbo engine I would rather have a Macan turbo instead for a car used often and keep the special car garage spot for something really special instead... The 991.2 might be faster, handle better or sound a little better but the difference is not big enough to justify owning both cars wink

    No, that is a very reasonable response, and IMO the big risk in Porsche's inexorable evolution to ever more safe/boring dynamics, sound, etc. In Frankl's review linked above he commented that the 911 has become the sports car for people who don't really want a 911, just the look of one.... he meant the 991 overall, and as his comment becomes true, it will drive away those who prefer their 911 with more pure sports feel. You could say, just buy the GT cars then, but these are a significant amount more uncompromising and for many lose the daily driveability factor the main 911 models have.  


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    4trac:
    In Frankl's review linked above he commented that the 911 has become the sports car for people who don't really want a 911, just the look of one.... he meant the 991 overall, and as his comment becomes true, it will drive away those who prefer their 911 with more pure sports feel. You could say, just buy the GT cars then, but these are a significant amount more uncompromising and for many lose the daily driveability factor the main 911 models have.  

    The other problem is that the GT cars (while awesome) have become the size of a Panamera Coupe, since the base 911 has evolved to satisfy that segment now...


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    I'm becoming concerned what this "advancement" will have on the Cayman when it receives a four cylinder variant of this motor.  


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    CGX car nut:

    I'm becoming concerned what this "advancement" will have on the Cayman when it receives a four cylinder variant of this motor.  

    Should lose some weight, but loss of NA character will be even more dramatic with loss of 33% of cylinders and only one turbocharger to mitigate loss of motivation.


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550

     


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    Grant:
    CGX car nut:

    I'm becoming concerned what this "advancement" will have on the Cayman when it receives a four cylinder variant of this motor.  

    Should lose some weight, but loss of NA character will be even more dramatic with loss of 33% of cylinders and only one turbocharger to mitigate loss of motivation.


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550

     

     

    So, in other words, a brilliant car becomes a dullard.  


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    CGX car nut:
    Grant:
    CGX car nut:

    I'm becoming concerned what this "advancement" will have on the Cayman when it receives a four cylinder variant of this motor.  

    Should lose some weight, but loss of NA character will be even more dramatic with loss of 33% of cylinders and only one turbocharger to mitigate loss of motivation.


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550

     

     

    So, in other words, a brilliant car becomes a dullard.  

    Ouch!  I guess we'll have to see.  In terms of outright performance, the 4-cyl Cayman S will probably give my GT4 a run for its money at the local track (high altitude), but I know which car I'd rather be driving...


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Every new iteration of the 911 performs better than the previous one and the similar objections and doubts are expressed.

    Porsche knows their new car market very well, they spend huge sums on crunching buyer profiles and fine tuning profitability for equipment, performance and options offerings and the 911 has a huge profit built into every car compared to other makers.

    So don't worry, eventually they will get into your checkbook with the 991.2 indecision


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    JimFlat6:

    Every new iteration of the 911 performs better than the previous one and the similar objections and doubts are expressed.

    Porsche knows their new car market very well, they spend huge sums on crunching buyer profiles and fine tuning profitability for equipment, performance and options offerings and the 911 has a huge profit built into every car compared to other makers.

    So don't worry, eventually they will get into your checkbook with the 991.2 indecision

    True but this time, they had no choice. The switch to turbo charged engines wasn't exactly mandated by customer demand or whatever marketing necessity but mandatory future technical guidelines and regulations.

    However, I doubt that a majority of Porsche customers will really care but I hope that the "connoisseurs" among Porsche lovers will appreciate the n/a cars in the used car market sooner or later.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


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    Very hard to predict future market demand. Oddly, in my opinion, 1970 and 80s turbos are going for over $300,000 US. And talk about crazy handling cars. My 1976 turbo was like driving a skateboard on ice...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Greetings everyone,

    This is my first post so please take it easy on me. I just stepped out from Dubai Motor Show and I think I captured some decent pictures of the 991.2

    also I am including a Youtube link of the 911 I ordered last month. They say it will arrive in March. Let me know what you guys think of the color combo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYdRfvF_PEg

    Cheers

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    Welcome! And very nice quality pictureswink


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    JimFlat6:

    Every new iteration of the 911 performs better than the previous one and the similar objections and doubts are expressed.

    Porsche knows their new car market very well, they spend huge sums on crunching buyer profiles and fine tuning profitability for equipment, performance and options offerings and the 911 has a huge profit built into every car compared to other makers.

    So don't worry, eventually they will get into your checkbook with the 991.2 indecision

     

    I totally agreed. I was never convinced about the look of the 991, I still hated the gold fish headlamp, but with the GT3RS they got into my check book too.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Welcome Smiley and no need to be worried, we don't bite. Smiley Well, at least not always. Smiley

    Here's my personal opinion with the configurator "video": I have my problem with that red interior, can't help it. Something just doesn't look right but it is always difficult to tell by the configuration pictures because the colors aren't always accurate.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    I like the red interior with the blue exterior combination. Very unique, unusual and striking. A bit retro, but a great change from the typical black, silver, grey, etc.. Congratulations to this new owner.


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    jamal al marri:

    also I am including a Youtube link of the 911 I ordered last month. They say it will arrive in March. Let me know what you guys think of the color combo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYdRfvF_PEg

     

    don't forget leather sun visors so you don't have the clashing black plastic bits on the windscreen frame 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Thank you.


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    I respect your opinion. I just think that it looks retro and retro is what I am after. I think it goes well with the Targa.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Thank you. My thoughts exactly.


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    Thanks for the tip. As I recall I ordered the sun visors in alcantara. Now I am not sure what color they will come in. Most probably black.


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    jamal al marri:

    Thanks for the tip. As I recall I ordered the sun visors in alcantara. Now I am not sure what color they will come in. Most probably black.

    alcantara only in black 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Hi Jamal, 

    Welcome to Rennteam!!!! An amazing place for all things :)

     

    Moser


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Fully agree. A Miami Blue Targa 4S with PSE currently seems very appealing to me. I have however not driven a Targa yet and heard some people say there is a lot of wind buffeting with the top down. What are the views here? Is it a fact and if so above which speed?


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    I would take carbon interior parts and bits - I love them on the GT3 - they look really high-end - to my eyes it would look better with red


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    the door and dash interior trim parts on a standard car is nasty cheap plastic .. best to get aluminium, CF or leather, or painted


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    The current red/black Porsche interior is sublime, love it every day. The problem is to find a good color for the exterior, agate grey works but it is sooooo boring...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    That blue/red combination is striking.  I recall many years ago, a cobalt blue/merlot red leather 964 in the showroom in Zurich.  It was almost a match to the Avanti I had at the time.  Typically, I'm more into the muted grey palate with a brighter interior leather; however, that combination looks really, really good.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    jamal al marri:

    I respect your opinion. I just think that it looks retro and retro is what I am after. I think it goes well with the Targa.

    Although I´m not a fan of red interior this one looks perfect Smiley congrats and welcome. eep us updated about deliver dates.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    My father had a blue/ red combination Super 90 cab in the 50's. Amazing!


     
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