Dec 1, 2018 11:39:13 AM
Dec 1, 2018 12:04:05 PM
Carlos from Spain:much better looking than the shaver...
Anything looks better than the shaver...
We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
I really like most of the updates including the interior. But the gear shifter is beyond strange and it would have been much better to completely remove it and have buttons to switch between the different modes. Even worse though is the third brake light. What were they thinking? it (at least in pictures) destroys an otherwise great looking rear end.
Also noticed in the last pictures that the ugly bumperettes on US spec cars seems to have returned? For the 991 they got removed so very strange that they now are there again even though they are smaller than before.
What are the bumperettes on the rear bumper of the dolomite silver and gentian blue cars?
I really can’t get over the brake light misalignment btw. Back in the days, they always messed up the alognment of the front DRL clusters, which would inadvertently be fixed in the facelift... now they got that right, the front looks really harmoneous (on the risk of bland), but they messed up the rear with this eyesore...
Porsche, separates Le Mans from Le Boys
I like :
- the wider fenders, giving very sexy curves to the front and back of the car
- the well integrated rims
- the top of the dashboard , a good modern version of the older classic ones .
I don't like , at all :
- the center console which looks out of place, ( better in a sedan ) , including the horrible cup holder
- the '' cut'' trough the whole back integrating the PORSCHE letters , no need for this except to tie the 911 to the Panamera . I really can't get used to it
Generally :
The car has become more luxurious and confortable . I feel it is aimed now at much older people then me . Or , I am just too young for this kind of car ? Getting closer to an SLS .
At the same time, it looks more sporty then before from the sides and from above .
Porsche must know their market . Around me , I have 5 neighbors with 911's . Not one has ever had any interest to attend a track day . Would not even consider it . They drive to work in suburban areas, and never drive faster then 120 km/h . Some of them do not even know what engine they have . I understand very well that these custumers want more confort and safety and are only interested in the 911' s shape and the image it has . Obviously Porsche is aiming at them .
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964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS
Dec 1, 2018 3:42:08 PM
Dec 1, 2018 4:38:02 PM
EnglishManInNY:Anyone know when the Cabs will be coming out?
Unfortunately, the prototype was not well received in Paris today. https://mobile.twitter.com/PMBreakingNews/status/1068893328387842049
Dec 1, 2018 4:42:47 PM
spudgun:I still can't get my head around that brake light design. How on earth did that design got an approval?
To your comment and that of Joost above: is there a mandated EU height above ground, that such brake lights must be installed at? If so, that could explain why it needed to be higher than the engine slats...
2017 Range Rover Sport S/C, 2009 Porsche 911S
Dec 1, 2018 5:09:13 PM
CGX car nut:EnglishManInNY:Anyone know when the Cabs will be coming out?
Unfortunately, the prototype was not well received in Paris today. https://mobile.twitter.com/PMBreakingNews/status/1068893328387842049
That is disgusting, what a bunch of pathetic loosers. A civilized state would call upon the police to take the garbage out...
⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS
Dec 1, 2018 5:12:11 PM
Gnil:They drive to work in suburban areas, and never drive faster then 120 km/h .
Your neighbours just don't like ending up in jail
Agree with your overall assessment. Maybe in the Pro department one could add the enhanced choice of paint colours and interior trims. When I spotted the first spyhots of the center console I said to myself: don't worry - this will be just some pre-production cheap camo. Obviously I was wrong Actually I wonder whether this time they offer some special interior design for the GT cars - I have a hard time to see bucket seats in this kind of "elegant" interior. Also the GT PDK crowd will be not amused with the BRAUN thingy - maybe unless they'll offer Paddles not mounted to the steering column for the GT cars
On another note: Paulo asked in the other thread about the different functionalities of the switches ("mini-BRAUNS") above the center console: I guess dependent on the options you choose you have max. 2 switches for individual configuration - maybe after all you don't have to crawl through the touchscreen menu in order to activate the PSE ?
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Daily Driver 991 Carrera T (June 2018), Canyon Carver 981 Spyder, Track Machine 997 GT3
Dec 1, 2018 5:42:25 PM
The buttons, the shaver and the vents look cheap. The dash lines are unappealing, and light color interior look like a mess. But it doesn’t matter, they know their target audience perfectly (ie the “sporty sedan is not sexy enough” crowd) and these will sell like hot cakes despite the higher price because there isn’t much competition.
Personally I would much rather have an Alfa 4C for fun and good weather and a sporty crossover for daily and practicality for about the same price as a well optioned 992. Depreciation on these car will be the worst on any 911, as expected.
Dec 1, 2018 8:18:14 PM
Porsche-Jeck: Actually I wonder whether this time they offer some special interior design for the GT cars - I have a hard time to see bucket seats in this kind of "elegant" interior.
They will be making newly designed LWB's I think for the 992. Will be interesting to see what they do...
18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
Hello everyone!
Any thoughts on launch cars having SPASM option? I have placed an order but can’t decide on PASM vs SPASM. Guards Red with full leather Black/Mojave Beige, Black PSE, RWS, 4-way Sport seats plus, RS Spyder wheels, GT wheel
Regards from Poland!
I think SPASM if you have smooth roads and/or you like to drive on a race track. For less than perfect streets, probably good to stick with Standard PASM (especially since 21” wheels now)
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18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
Some more info.
Dec 2, 2018 10:52:07 PM
ISUK:Some more info.
"Dr. Walliser said that Andreas Preuninger and Porsche Motorsport are ramping up work on a new GT3, too. And, thankfully, it should keep the 991.2 GT3's amazing 4.0-liter naturally aspirated flat-six. Undoubtedly a GT3 RS and possibly a GT2 of some sort will follow, though Walliser said there won't be another 911 R."
Dec 2, 2018 11:19:39 PM
Boxster Coupe GTS:ISUK:Some more info.
"Dr. Walliser said that Andreas Preuninger and Porsche Motorsport are ramping up work on a new GT3, too. And, thankfully, it should keep the 991.2 GT3's amazing 4.0-liter naturally aspirated flat-six. Undoubtedly a GT3 RS and possibly a GT2 of some sort will follow, though Walliser said there won't be another 911 R."
Of course, the 911R was just a beta car for testing stuff for the GT3, mainly the manual transmission.