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    458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    According to a recent report, the high-performance version of the Ferrari 458 will eschew the Scuderia name and adopt the Monte Carlo moniker.

    The name change would be unfortunate, but the car will reportedly offer 620 PS (456 kW / 611 hp) which is 50 PS (37 kW / 49 hp) more than the standard model. We can also expect revised styling and weight saving measures, but the exact details remain elusive.

    There's no word on when the car could be introduced, but the 458 Italia was unveiled in 2009 so a debut shouldn't be too far off.

     
     
    Ferrari 458 Italia Sucderia Artists Rendering.

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    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

    Also, this is going to be a quite interesting battle between Ferrari and McLaren. Each time F comes out with a higher output version of the 458, all McLaren has to do is send out a flash update and turn up the boost.


    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    Would be strange indeed .The only connection I can think of is the Monaco Grand Prix where Ferrari won 9 times (vs 15 McLaren) the first being in 1952 (all F1 wins). McLaren could claim this name on its own road car with more consistency  than Ferrari in this case .


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    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    Heist:

    What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

    There was a mid-engined Lancia Montecarlo (not Monte Carlo) in the 70s. I am sure Ferrari don't think of that car as the 458 ancestor Smiley

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    reginos:
    Heist:

    What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

    There was a mid-engined Lancia Montecarlo (not Monte Carlo) in the 70s. I am sure Ferrari don't think of that car as the 458 ancestor Smiley

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    But it does mean that the FIAT Group has secured the rights to the use of the name.


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    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    They should name it "Mugello".


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    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    fritz:
    reginos:
    Heist:

    What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

    There was a mid-engined Lancia Montecarlo (not Monte Carlo) in the 70s. I am sure Ferrari don't think of that car as the 458 ancestor Smiley

    c606418072011224323_3.jpg

     

    But it does mean that the FIAT Group has secured the rights to the use of the name.

    There was a Chevrolet Monte Carlo preceding the Lancia, that ran for many years. Perhaps, this is the reason behind the Italian car being called Montecarlo instead of Monte Carlo 


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    reginos:
    fritz:
    reginos:
    Heist:

    What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

    There was a mid-engined Lancia Montecarlo (not Monte Carlo) in the 70s. I am sure Ferrari don't think of that car as the 458 ancestor Smiley

     

     

    But it does mean that the FIAT Group has secured the rights to the use of the name.

    There was a Chevrolet Monte Carlo preceding the Lancia, that ran for many years. Perhaps, this is the reason behind the Italian car being called Montecarlo instead of Monte Carlo 

    Montecarlo is the name of a small town near Lucca (Italy), by the way , nice town.


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    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    m4ever:
    reginos:
    fritz:
    reginos:
    Heist:

    What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

    There was a mid-engined Lancia Montecarlo (not Monte Carlo) in the 70s. I am sure Ferrari don't think of that car as the 458 ancestor Smiley

     

     

    But it does mean that the FIAT Group has secured the rights to the use of the name.

    There was a Chevrolet Monte Carlo preceding the Lancia, that ran for many years. Perhaps, this is the reason behind the Italian car being called Montecarlo instead of Monte Carlo 

    Montecarlo is the name of a small town near Pisa (Italy), by the way , nice town.

    That must have been the trick with Lancia sidestepping the Chevrolet naming rights, in the 70s. Montecarlo as in small town not the Monaco Monte Carlo. These Italians always find a way indecision


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    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    Reginos , you are right. Italians always find a way , unfortunately not always in the right direction.

    Would be indeed strange to name  the F 458 Montecarlo after a thirteen century medieval town in Tuscany. Ferrari Marketing Dept. would have hard time selling that !


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    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    m4ever:

    Reginos , you are right. Italians always find a way , unfortunately not always in the right direction.

    Would be indeed strange to name  the F 458 Montecarlo after a thirteen century medieval town in Tuscany. Ferrari Marketing Dept. would have hard time selling that !

    Yeh. Before you knew it, they'd start using names like Marenello, or Modena.   Smiley


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    fritz


    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    reginos:
    m4ever:
    reginos:
    fritz:
    reginos:
    Heist:

    What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

    There was a mid-engined Lancia Montecarlo (not Monte Carlo) in the 70s. I am sure Ferrari don't think of that car as the 458 ancestor Smiley

     

     

    But it does mean that the FIAT Group has secured the rights to the use of the name.

    There was a Chevrolet Monte Carlo preceding the Lancia, that ran for many years. Perhaps, this is the reason behind the Italian car being called Montecarlo instead of Monte Carlo 

    Montecarlo is the name of a small town near Pisa (Italy), by the way , nice town.

    That must have been the trick with Lancia sidestepping the Chevrolet naming rights, in the 70s. Montecarlo as in small town not the Monaco Monte Carlo. These Italians always find a way indecision

    Maybe Samsung should've hired an italian lawyer on the case agains Apple then Smiley


    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    Just for fun, before we can have more tech details about the upcoming "Montecarlo" i had a look in my Ferrari books In order to highlight all the models that contained a geographical reference, here we go:

    Name and model/s in brackets (only road cars no racing models) from 1947 (not chronological order)

     

    - Tour de France (250)

    - Europa (250)

    - Daytona (365 GTB/4) this one though was not the official designation but it became sort of

    - Maranello (550)

    - Fiorano (599)

    - Modena (360)

    - Italia (458)

    - Superamerica (410,400, 575)

      - America (375,340)

      - California (250, 365, California)

    Let's see what will be next

    Cheers

    Alex


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    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    If they keep the displacement at 4.5L (how it is usually done on these racier models) and add 50hp, the HP/L will be an astonishing record (for a production n/a motor),138 frown


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    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    This was the last vehicle named "Monte Carlo" sold here in America.

    *Barf bag not included.


    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    Rossi:

    They should name it "Mugello".

    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

    Or "Monza". 


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    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    pride355:
    Rossi:

    They should name it "Mugello".

    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

    Or "Monza". 

    The F430 is the Monza.


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    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    Not a fan of the the "MonteCarlo" name, but I'd take it any day over "Light Pista"


    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    koko:

    Not a fan of the the "MonteCarlo" name, but I'd take it any day over "Light Pista"

    Just "Pista" would be great though. Smiley


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    Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

    ......or Ferrari Pizza indecision.


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