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    Jun 13, 2013 3:14:29 PM

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    Another Track Day @İstanbul Park

    Last week, we had another event @İstanbul Park, ex-Turkish F1 GP Circuit. This time it is organized by the Official Ferrari - Maserati Vendor in Turkey. The Vendor also brought 2 Mc Stradale, 1 Quattroporte, 1 458 italia, and 1 F12 for test drive. Also Ferrari and Maserati owners were allowed to track their own cars.

    So, other than testing F12 and MC Stradale, I did about 20 laps (approx. 120 km) with my 458. Luckily, I had one of the fastest/best Turkish Driver whom I know from childhood as an instructor with me. He raced in F3 and GP2 after many years of karting. So we did 2 sessions which lasts almost 1 hour.

    One of the highlights from our laps was this high speed (170+ km/h) oversteer @ the exit of famous Turn 8:

    Here is the short video of the corner from inside:

    Another highlight of the day was high speed entry @ Turn 11 where I went fully on the apex at the exit. 

    Here is the short video from the inside:

     


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    Jun 13, 2013 3:20:12 PM

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    And Here are my laps from the day (I only posted 8 laps in 3 video):

    The fastest I did during the day was around 2:19. My best time is around 2:16 @ İstanbul Park which can be watched here:

    Evenif my previous laps were faster, I did improve on some corners. However, since I didn't lap for a best time, I didn't record a better time.


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    Jun 13, 2013 3:37:01 PM

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    Finally, about my 2 laps w/F12:

    I absolutely love the car. The proportions are perfect, the new era headlights is the best design amongst modern Ferraris, rear has deep traces from 375 of 1960s, the dashboard and the steering wheel are directly taken from 458 so I felt completely at home when I sat in the driver's seat. The center tunnel and the new lines of the front dashboard are all together faultless.

    The engine and the transmission are the jewels of the car. The italian test driver only let me drive in "sport" mode, so couldn't tested the race/TC Off but the shifts are smoother than 458s yet they are so fast. The car doesn't feel Front engine-Rear wheel drive at all. The weight dist. is %46-%54 but further more there is huge traction at the rear and the front is not heavy and goes where you pointed. It is heavier than 458 but the only place you feel it at the circuit is @ Turn 8 where you corner 4 turns in high speed (approx. 130 kmh). At that part of the circuit, F12 puts its weight on your shoulders and actually it is slower than 458, BUT at the rest of the track, it is faster than 458. It has immense power to accelerate and very very strong brakes, thanks to CCM3, which work better than 458.

    The thing is, the car itself is very serene, very smooth. You go very fast effortlessly. It is a complete different car than mid-engine 458. The driving enjoyment is much better with 458 but F12, IMO, is the best front engine-rear wheel drive GT in the World, period. It can get sportier but I can't imagine how will it get better. Kudos to Ferrari for such an amazing car. SmileySmiley

    If I were to have only 1 Ferrari, my vote would always go to 458, if possible 458 scuderia. F12 will come always in second place for me but it is a very impressive car.

    I also drove the MC stradale but don't want to comment much on it. SmileySmiley


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    Jun 16, 2013 4:28:56 PM

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    Amazing Onur! Great driving mate! Someone who drove the F12 extensively told me that in RACE mode the car is much more hardcore and that in ESC OFF it is just vicious and downright scary! Much more unruly than the 458 according to him. He also prefers the 458 though as it is a more benign car. 


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    Jun 16, 2013 5:28:12 PM

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    730HP, only rwd and no esc of course it will be scary haha

    Jun 17, 2013 1:56:03 PM

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    REALZEUS:

    Amazing Onur! Great driving mate! Someone who drove the F12 extensively told me that in RACE mode the car is much more hardcore and that in ESC OFF it is just vicious and downright scary! Much more unruly than the 458 according to him. He also prefers the 458 though as it is a more benign car. 

    This is correct. The way I would characterise it is that the 458 is a much easier car to try and drive fast as an amateur, whereas the F12 requires much closer attention and respect unless you want to end up in a hedge Smiley  The beauty of the power and the torque combined with the ultra quick steering is that as long as you are paying attention, it can be brought back in to line very quickly and without too much drama.

    Jun 18, 2013 2:31:32 PM

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    crayphile:
    REALZEUS:

    Amazing Onur! Great driving mate! Someone who drove the F12 extensively told me that in RACE mode the car is much more hardcore and that in ESC OFF it is just vicious and downright scary! Much more unruly than the 458 according to him. He also prefers the 458 though as it is a more benign car. 

    This is correct. The way I would characterise it is that the 458 is a much easier car to try and drive fast as an amateur, whereas the F12 requires much closer attention and respect unless you want to end up in a hedge Smiley  The beauty of the power and the torque combined with the ultra quick steering is that as long as you are paying attention, it can be brought back in to line very quickly and without too much drama.

    Crayphile,

    Are you happy with your Spider?  Smiley


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    Jun 18, 2013 2:32:42 PM

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    Whoopsy:

    730HP, only rwd and no esc of course it will be scary haha

    I would love to drive the F12 in "CT Off" mode. SmileySmiley


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    Jun 18, 2013 3:52:15 PM

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    pride355:
    Whoopsy:

    730HP, only rwd and no esc of course it will be scary haha

    I would love to drive the F12 in "CT Off" mode. SmileySmiley

     

    Haha you daredevil!! kiss

    Jun 18, 2013 11:09:16 PM

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    Crayphile,

    Are you happy with your Spider?  Smiley

    Yes. I am going to do a proper write up on that thread when I get a chance

     
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