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    Audi RS6 Sedan

    http://www.netcarshow.com/audi/2009-rs6/

    The best car in its class-without any doubt!


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    Great car indeed.

    This facelift rearlights are very good on this R6 Sedan. Completly different car, much much better!

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    I liked the interior very much and the rear lights.

    The exterior looks a bit plain in the pictures but in the metal the blown wheel arches will be impressive, especially in dark silver.

    So, how well is this car expected to compete against the M5 and the AMG Mercedes?

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    Faster on the Ring then M3 Coupe...

    Faster on the autobahn then 997.2CS PDK(since via quattro Gmbh 300km/h limiter is possible! Officially only 280km/h but, I got two order codes-one is for 300km/h...)...

    I will probably buy one...

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    KresoF1 said:
    Faster on the Ring then M3 Coupe...

    Faster on the autobahn then 997.2CS PDK(since via quattro Gmbh 300km/h limiter is possible! Officially only 280km/h but, I got two order codes-one is for 300km/h...)...

    I will probably buy one...



    Yes very impressive! Is it AWD with rear bias, like 20%-80%?

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    KresoF1 said:

    The best car in its class-without any doubt!





    It is also the most pointless car in its class

    580 hp in a sedan with an autobox and the engine hanging over the front axle, not my idea of fun
    But I'm sure it will be a big hit on the Autobahn.

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    temm said:
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    KresoF1 said:

    The best car in its class-without any doubt!





    It is also the most pointless car in its class

    580 hp in a sedan with an autobox and the engine hanging over the front axle, not my idea of fun
    But I'm sure it will be a big hit on the Autobahn.



    "Horses for courses" as the English say!

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    Very nice car:::::

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    The only problem I see it's weight. Driving pleasure is most likely not on a par with the M5.

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    How much is the kerb weight?

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    AWD is 40/60. Weight distribution is 60/40.

    Pointless car? RS6 sedan is faster around Hockenheim and Ring then M3 sedan. Offers more interior space and far better traction, it is everyday car. Try to drive M3 on the snow...

    Only true moron would choose any high power SUV over this car. OK, if you have big family and small kids SUV is potentially better solution...

    Weight? Below 2000kgs...

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    Well i did drive my M3 on the snow and it was pretty tough.
    The trick is to have slightly used winter tires (are far better then new ones) and get used with the back of the car trying to slide even on the straight.

    Porsches remain my benchmark on the snow

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    What's so special about the looks of it ... it's another Audi ... of course well engineered ... but they all look the same and the only difference is the size like S, M, L, XL ... kinda boring meanwhile.

    It's hard to buy a really good looking sedan these days ;-)

    Cheers
    Tom

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    KresoF1 said:
    Faster on the Ring then M3 Coupe...



    May I ask where you got that info from? I do not believe that you could go any additional fast lap with the same front tires.


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    KresoF1 said:
    Faster on the autobahn then 997.2CS PDK(since via quattro Gmbh 300km/h limiter is possible!



    The car has 195 additional horsepower, so this doesn't come as a surprise. The car shines in acceleration and traction, however do not factor in the weight and necessary power output. To me this is ridiculous...

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    It is about 20s faster then old RS6 Sedan on the Ring according to my source from quattro Gmbh....

    Do not like new RS6 Sedan? No problem at all...

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    I like the technical spec, I just don't understand the need to make all audi's look-a-like. It gets a bit boring.

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    Great car. For all you naysayers, these cars aren't made for backroad blasts. This will be an all-season daily driver with stunning performance.

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    Lars997 said:
    This facelift rearlights are very good on this R6 Sedan. Completly different car, much much better!



    Yeah, in fact the new rear lights make it look like a beefed-up A4 now...

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    temm said:

    It is also the most pointless car in its class



    Exactly.

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    Rossi said:
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    Lars997 said:
    This facelift rearlights are very good on this R6 Sedan. Completly different car, much much better!



    Yeah, in fact the new rear lights make it look like a beefed-up A4 now...



    ...and all Porsche models are very different one from another design wise.

    If you want class and understatement you will go for RS6. For ricers there are many choices...

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    KresoF1 said:

    If you want class and understatement you will go for RS6. For ricers there are many choices...



    Just... lol.

    Except that RS models are cocks cars. And you were talking about class...

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    I don't get the flack many are giving this car... an understated over powered four door sedan... perfect for the family car when you need the extra seats but would rather have a high performance car... this give you both.

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    PinKchampagnE said:
    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:

    If you want class and understatement you will go for RS6. For ricers there are many choices...



    Just... lol.

    Except that RS models are cocks cars. And you were talking about class...



    Why exactly are they cock cars?

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    Crash said:
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    PinKchampagnE said:
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    KresoF1 said:

    If you want class and understatement you will go for RS6. For ricers there are many choices...



    Just... lol.

    Except that RS models are cocks cars. And you were talking about class...



    Why exactly are they cock cars?



    Just guessing-he is probably heavy PORSCHEIN addict?

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    Anyone have a guess as to when this car will come to the US and at what price?

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    PinKchampagnE said:
    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:

    If you want class and understatement you will go for RS6. For ricers there are many choices...



    Just... lol.

    Except that RS models are cocks cars. And you were talking about class...



    Excuse my ignorance but what is a cocks car?

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    Crash said:
    Quote:
    PinKchampagnE said:
    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:

    If you want class and understatement you will go for RS6. For ricers there are many choices...



    Just... lol.

    Except that RS models are cocks cars. And you were talking about class...



    Why exactly are they cock cars?



    Cars that cocks drive ? Aka former M3 drivers.

    I was just being sarcastic anyway. In all seriousness, I just think that the RS6 is pointless (too heavy, excessive weight on the front axle, etc.). If you're looking for a car that is great to cruise on the highway, what was wrong with the S6 in the first place ? BUT, I have to agree it is a wonderful all-around car, perfect for family. At least better than an SUV.

    @Krezo : Nah, I'm not really a Porsche addict. I didn't mean to be rude or anything anyway.

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    PinKchampagnE said:
    At least better than an SUV.




    To be honest with you although I have a lot of respect for cars like these, I'd rather have a good SUV, one with excellent road manners,like a Cayenne or X5/6 rather than a super saloon.

    Given that none of them, no matter how good their road behaviour is, is a substitude for real sports cars, the SUV offers more ground clearance in case of snow or cross country routes, obstacles in country lanes etc. and the elevated driving position is very relaxing in crowded roads, in and out of city.

    For me at least it is either a true sports car or a super SUV.

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    reginos said:
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    PinKchampagnE said:
    At least better than an SUV.




    Given that none of them, no matter how good their road behaviour is, is a substitude for real sports cars



    I guess you have a point there. To each their own, especially since it's a rather different philosophy anyway (sedan vs SUV).

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    reginos said:the SUV offers more ground clearance in case of snow or cross country routes, obstacles in country lanes etc. and the elevated driving position is very relaxing in crowded roads, in and out of city.



    Definitely. Except that most of SUV owners won't go off-road. Most of the SUVs I see are stuck in heavy traffic. People just feel 'reassured' about them (elevated driving postion, as you said, not to mention supposedly better crash resistance (sic)), but only a few would take them on cross country routes.

    I totally get why people would buy SUVs. I don't really get why people would buy an immensely powerful sedan, if it's just to cruise on the highway. But maybe I'm missing the point here.

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    Here is a short summery of differences between SUV and Sport sedan...

    SUV(Porsche Cayenne Turbo S)
    +excellent traction
    +big trunk
    +good offroad capabilities(I am not interested in that)
    +very good interior space
    -very heavy(over 2300kg)
    -drive dynamics good only for SUV
    -numble steering feel(in comparison to RS6 at least)

    Audi RS6
    +amazing traction
    +excellent drive dynamcis for size and weight
    +good interior space
    -average trunk size
    -heavy

    Not to mentione that RS6 offers true dry sump engine, not wet(aka integrated dry sump) engine, that it is over 25s faster on the Ring then Cayenne Turbo S(new RS6 is marginally faster then new M3 on the Ring)...

    Powerfull SUV a la Cayenne Turbo S(or forthcoming Q7 V12 TDI) is as far from understatement as possible...

    M3(e46) driver wants new RS6? I do not think so...

    IMHO RS6 sedan in Daytona gray is far more understatement then any powerfull SUV or even BMW M5...

     
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