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    X5 M Vs. C-Turbo

    http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-x5-m-gegen-porsche-cayenne-turbo-vergleich-1246410.html

    Could someone translate which one came on top please.


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    Re: X5 M Vs. C-Turbo

    Basically they say it's a draw. They think the interior of the Cayenne is much better than that of the X5M, but they dislike the exterior looks of both cars. They describe the X5M as embarrassing whereas the Cayenne tries to mate "Meg Ryans nose with the body of a buffalo".

    Performance of both cars is comparable, with an advantage of the Cayenne on rural roads with its air suspension. There the Porsche is more comfortable and also more agile than the BMW.


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    Re: X5 M Vs. C-Turbo

    Stefan, you forgot to mention what was written in actual article in Auto Bild. AB made not needed point about maximal fuel consumption of both cars. Here X5 M took that title of totally politically and socialy not-correct car. Over 55l/100km maximal fuel consumption... 10L more then on CT. If we remember social climate after similar article about old CT(as Gasoholic) we can asume what will general public in Germany think  about X5M...


    Re: X5 M Vs. C-Turbo

    Thank you guys.


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    Re: X5 M Vs. C-Turbo

    I just returned from a 331 km Autobahn trip back home, some of it with lots of 80, 100 and 120 kph speed limits, some of it without. Car was fully loaded (lots of luggage). I filled up fuel when we started and after 331 km, I added 61 liters of fuel. If my calculation is right, this is a fuel consumption of around 18,4 liters / 100 km. Keep in mind that I was driving wit M Dynamic Mode active and accelerated fully whenever possible. Even when driving 290 kph on my speedo for a longer period of time (couple of minutes), I never used more than 26 liters / 100 km. S

    My average fuel consumption on the X5 M is around 22 liters / 100 km, not much considering how I drive it. Turning M Dynamic Mode off and driving in a civilized manner, I can easily drive the X5 M under 18 liters / 100 km. So I'm not quite sure how AutoBILD got an average fuel consumption of over 19 liters / 100 km because in many different car magazines, we X5 or X6 M were always below 17 liters. Driving in M Dynamic Mode can increase fuel consumption substantially but this is not the mode most people will actually drive in.

    Nobody is crazy enough to use a SUV on the track, so what AutoBILD did was the typical "crowd pleaser", to support the bad reputation SUVs have with the general public in Germany. This is nothing new. 51 and 44 liters / 100 km are just not a real world fuel consumption.

    Thanks god most people don't recognize the X5 M, this car looks just too much Diesel to most of them. With the Cayenne, things are different. We had a Cayenne S promo car in front of our hotel at Europapark and I already heard the comments from people passing by, most something like "toy for the rich (in a very negative way)" or "who needs this thing?" . Never heard this about a BMW X series...thanks god.

    As to the performance: like I said before when I decided to go for the X5 M. I got a very subtle (black is the perfect color) high performance SUV for aprox. 30000 EUR (after rebate) less than a Cayenne Turbo and with the benefit not to attract too much attention.

    I have to agree, in white or red (as tested), the X5 M looks kind of "Macho". Since most X5 over here in Germany have dark colors, this isn't really a problem. Even my dealer had a problem finding my X5 M on their huge parking lot without license plates on it when it arrived. They had another 8 X5 on the lot, you hardly can tell them apart from the X5 M.

    Most people I know can't tell a BMW X3 from a X5, so I really don't think that somebody is going to notice that I'm driving a X5 M. In Bavaria, the X5 is kind of a VolksSUV, so I doubt that AutoBILD's report will have any impact on public perception. It just may create, again, a very unneccessary discussion about owning a SUV generally. Whoever has more than one kid knows exactly what a SUV is good for, especially if you live in a region with lots of rain and snow. I won't even start on the safety benefits of a heavy and solid car.

    What actually p.ss.s me off most is the fact that I can see more and more SUVs on the street...MINI SUVs, those RAVs, Q5, XC90 and whatever their names are. So people actually love owning and driving a SUV but it needs to be "green" or whatever they think this means. So far, lucky me, the X5 has the reputation of a good SUV with low fuel consumption. Of course this is the Diesel but like I said before...people don't have a clue. Smiley


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    Re: X5 M Vs. C-Turbo

    Christian, great and honest report.

    My wife wants one(SUV) since our family become bigger recently. She likes new X3 and Q5 the most. On the other hand my advice is new Touareg V8 TDI.  BTW, I drove Volvo XC60 T6 few days ago. IMO both new X3 and Q5 are much better cars overall.


    Re: X5 M Vs. C-Turbo

    The Q5 is really a nice and small SUV and if you don't travel with lots of luggage, it could be a very good family car.

    Since my wife decided she doesn't want to drive longer distances anymore, even a 500 km trip to the south side of Lake Garda in Italy was too annoying for her this year, I think that the X5 M will be our last high power SUV or even SUV. For just one family trip to the mountains per year, I don't need a full sized SUV.

    Since I'm thinking about track racing again next year, just for fun with some friends, I might go for a less expensive family car for daily city driving and go for a real fun track car instead, like the 991 GT3 maybe, if I can afford it. So far, I made plans to get a 991 Carrera S, if the performance is as good as our sources indicate but if I can step up to the GT3, it would be great.

    Another solution would be getting a Cayenne Turbo S after our X5 M lease runs out in 30 months but I would be stuck again with a high power SUV which I actually wouldn't need anymore. We will fly more and drive less, so a high power SUV wouldn't make that much sense anymore. I can drive a X5 Diesel through the city, I don't need a 555 HP monster to do that.

    2012 will be very interesting: my wife's M3 Cab lease runs out and I don't have a fun car at that time anymore. So there will be lots of opportunities to make the right choice.

    A family car for over 100000 EUR and with over 500 HP seems to be more and more unlikely by that time. Makes sense I guess if we are going to fly more.


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