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    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    Tires...possible. I don't know why Lamborghini went with Bridgestone, no clue. Smiley Maybe this has something to do with future projects (next gen Aventador and/or Huracan)? No clue.


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    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    I'm going to drive the STO for two days, not sure the weather will permit some more spirited driving, we'll see.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    Any plans to plug in Vbox / Racelogic and do some tests ?


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    RC:

    I'm going to drive the STO for two days, not sure the weather will permit some more spirited driving, we'll see.


    We expect a detailed report in due time. Smiley


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    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    BiTurbo:

    Any plans to plug in Vbox / Racelogic and do some tests ?

    Won't be the weather to do that I'm afraid. We'll see.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    Rossi:
    RC:

    I'm going to drive the STO for two days, not sure the weather will permit some more spirited driving, we'll see.


    We expect a detailed report in due time. Smiley

    Next weekend is pretty packed with the Concorso di Bavaria but I try my best. Smiley


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    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    Interesting. kiss
     

     


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    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    Getting the STO today and over the whole weekend, so I guess some more thorough analysis will be possible. 

    Problem is still the weather (nights will be around 1°C, daytime around 12°C) and the tires of the car. I don't want to crash it. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)

     


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    😎😉

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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)

     


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    Tires…Bridgestone Race. Not exactly the best for low temps (15 deg C) but better than expected if you keep your throttle foot under control.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    It looks good in that garage. Almost makes the white one disappear. 


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    I have to go back and dig out the post where I said how long it would take you to jump to something else from the Performante  smiley 


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    Enmanuel:

    I have to go back and dig out the post where I said how long it would take you to jump to something else from the Performante  smiley 

    You are wrong but more details early next week in a detailed report with many photos. 😎

    Yes, I LOVE the STO. No, I won‘t get one because I cannot afford having both, the STO and the Performante (and there are various reasons for why I would like to own both).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)

     


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    congrats, love everything about your car  thing wink


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    Will post a report over the next few days, have tons of photos as well. blush

     

    Just as two hints, the biggest disappointment and the biggest plus of the STO:

    • Exhaust sound is a huge disappointment, the car has a restriction (at least the EU model, I assume the UK model as well???), the sound is limited by a very restrictive flap control. Flap opens only above 4500 rpm (in 6th gear above 3500 rpm) and at idle. Will write about this more in the review.
    • Looks and street presence is amazing, best looking Lamborghini...what the heck, best looking sports car in 2021 without a doubt. This car causes people to stare at it, to stop next to it and to even follow it. I had a car follow me and the driver asked me if I can stop, so he can take pictures. indecision

     

    More over the next couple of days, sorry. I don't have much time right now, I'm still not 100% OK yet, not easy for me.

    stoo.jpg


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)

     


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    Bit surprised about the sound - the guy in our local showroom started theirs up and revved it a bit and it seemed deafening. As far as I could see it was similar to the Evo - a flap and no filter. Think China is the only market which gets filters at the moment.


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    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    RC:

    Will post a report over the next few days, have tons of photos as well. blushJust as two hints, the biggest disappointment and the biggest plus of the STO:

    • Exhaust sound is a huge disappointment, the car has a restriction (at least the EU model, I assume the

    Correct - but loud enough when you push it. Will be interested on your comments on steering - much better than usual Lamborghinis but still nowhere near Ferrari or Porsche feel.


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    DaveGordon:

    Bit surprised about the sound - the guy in our local showroom started theirs up and revved it a bit and it seemed deafening. As far as I could see it was similar to the Evo - a flap and no filter. Think China is the only market which gets filters at the moment.

    No, the EVO is basically as loud as the Performante with a slightly different sound in all rev ranges, the STO is not

    This had something to do with certification according to a Lambo rep.

    There is a workaround (if STO owners are interested, I can provide details but PM only), it isn't legal though, so...at your own risk.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    crayphile:
    RC:

    Will post a report over the next few days, have tons of photos as well. blushJust as two hints, the biggest disappointment and the biggest plus of the STO:

    • Exhaust sound is a huge disappointment, the car has a restriction (at least the EU model, I assume the

    Correct - but loud enough when you push it. Will be interested on your comments on steering - much better than usual Lamborghinis but still nowhere near Ferrari or Porsche feel.

    The STO gets loud over 4500 rpm (3500 rpm in 6th gear) but the change in flap position is very sudden (like an on/off switch) and it can get very annoying.

    Steering was fantastic but I had the Potenza Race tires on the car. I cannot say much about Ferrari (last Ferrari I drove was the F8 Spider and steering was excellent) but I do not think that the new GT3 for example has a better steering feel than the STO. The Performante is a different story but there is not much complaint here either in my opinion. There is a little bit more "movement" in the chassis on the Performante when you drive through sharp curves but my Performante has sport tires (PZero Corsa L1), not semi-slicks. The STO is excellent but I think that what makes the GT3 so exceptional is more the tire choice than the steering/chassis setup. The Michelin semi-slicks are top notch. The Bridgestone Potenza Race felt excellent, even at temps around 12-13°C but I do not think it is in the same category with the latest Cup 2R. I could be wrong though, I drove 500 km mostly on country roads and the Autobahn, not on the track.

    Surprisingly, the Performante feels like the smaller, lighter and even slightly more agile car (vs the STO) but the STO is really fast, also gives you that certain "crisp" (sorry, don't know what English word to use for the German "knackig") feel of a race car, there is no movement whatsoever in the chassis. 

    Overall, I would like to own both, the STO and the Performante, as weird as this may sound. The STO could be an excellent track car, the Performante is more of a do-it-all car, very similar to the GT3, the STO is more the GT3 RS of the Huracan line. That guy who crashed the STO loves to drive passes in Austria and I think the Performante is better suited for this kind of fun. The STO is more of a track car but this doesn't mean it is not suited as a daily driver. It is, with limitations. 


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    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    crayphile:
    RC:

    Will post a report over the next few days, have tons of photos as well. blushJust as two hints, the biggest disappointment and the biggest plus of the STO:

    • Exhaust sound is a huge disappointment, the car has a restriction (at least the EU model, I assume the

    Correct - but loud enough when you push it. Will be interested on your comments on steering - much better than usual Lamborghinis but still nowhere near Ferrari or Porsche feel.

    The 812 steering I don't find that impressive for feel? Direct yes, but communicative, not so much. Best steering feel yet for me was the 997 RS. 


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    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    kiss


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    Drove the STO down to Goodwood just now. Great fun -very easy to place the nose. Gearbox better than my Performante (working from memory). Brakes a little “grabby” but engender alot of confidence. Lamborghini steering still bugs me at higher speeds in particular - very heavy and you feel the wheel is pulling you in the opposite direction if that makes sense.


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    crayphile:

    Drove the STO down to Goodwood just now. Great fun -very easy to place the nose. Gearbox better than my Performante (working from memory). Brakes a little “grabby” but engender alot of confidence. Lamborghini steering still bugs me at higher speeds in particular - very heavy and you feel the wheel is pulling you in the opposite direction if that makes sense.

    STO gearbox feels a tiny bit snappier in Trofeo mode but it is too refined, if this makes sense...the Performante gearbox feels "jerkier", more technical, noisier (all in Corsa mode).

    Drove today in the Performante over 300 kph on summer tires, almost 270 kph on winter tires on my way back from the dealer, no steering issues, car feels as if it drive on rails, not different with the STO, probably even better. Smiley

    Sorry I didn't have the time yet for the review... Smiley Lots of work right now.


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    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    This seems more like Goldilocks.  The transmission in the Aventador is too rough.  The transmission in the STO is too refined.  The transmission in the Performante is just right.  


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    CGX car nut:

    This seems more like Goldilocks.  The transmission in the Aventador is too rough.  The transmission in the STO is too refined.  The transmission in the Performante is just right.  

    An embarrassment of riches Smiley


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    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    Porker:
    Best steering feel yet for me was the 997 RS. 

    That is my favorite for power steering, but an aircooled 911 with fresh manual rack and bushings (or aftermarket spherical bearings) makes that feel numb in comparison Smiley


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    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    CGX car nut:

    This seems more like Goldilocks.  The transmission in the Aventador is too rough.  The transmission in the STO is too refined.  The transmission in the Performante is just right.  

    Yep, this pretty much sums it up. The Performante has two faces: One refined in Street and Sport mode and a rough (mechanical/raw) one once you switch to Corsa mode. The STO feels refined all the time.

    I mean those mechanical noises and certain jerkiness which seems to appear out of nothing once you switch to Corsa mode in the Performante. The STO completely lacks this BUT you can't take your eyes off the STO, such a beauty AND it really drives extremely nice as well.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

     


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    I just came in here to post that video indecision. Huracán aside, I really enjoy the review by these two guys, the intros are a bit cheesy but they remind me of the good old days of Top Gear and their chemistry makes for enjoyable car reviews. 


    Re: Huracán EVO STO

    Yeah, they are great!


     
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