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    Re: F430

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    Patriek said:
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    nberry said:
    . Whatever I buy, (and price is no object) it must hold its value compare to other competitors.



    So otherwise you won't buy a Ferrari !



    Ah, it all makes sense now. Nick secretly covets the 997TT but didn't buy it because of its depreciation. That's why he constantly puts it down.

    David

    Re: F430

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    nberry said:
    Part of the enjoyment of a car is knowing that as you drive it is not burning a hole in your wallet. Whatever I buy, (and price is no object) it must hold its value compare to other competitors.


    "I voted for the war before I voted against it."

    Re: F430

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    DavidSF said:
    Quote:
    Patriek said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    . Whatever I buy, (and price is no object) it must hold its value compare to other competitors.



    So otherwise you won't buy a Ferrari !



    Ah, it all makes sense now. Nick secretly covets the 997TT but didn't buy it because of its depreciation. That's why he constantly puts it down.

    David



    Why would I do something stupid like buying a 997TT? If I wanted a fast daily car which is comfortable with plenty of room and safe, I would buy a M5 for about 20% less. It still amazes me that adults drive high performance sport cars to work.

    Re: F430

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    nberry said:
    Quote:
    DavidSF said:
    Quote:
    Patriek said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    . Whatever I buy, (and price is no object) it must hold its value compare to other competitors.



    So otherwise you won't buy a Ferrari !



    Ah, it all makes sense now. Nick secretly covets the 997TT but didn't buy it because of its depreciation. That's why he constantly puts it down.

    David



    Why would I do something stupid like buying a 997TT? If I wanted a fast daily car which is comfortable with plenty of room and safe, I would buy a M5 for about 20% less. It still amazes me that adults drive high performance sport cars to work.



    Is it ok for me to drive my lowly 997S to work?

    Re: F430

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    nberry said:
    It still amazes me that adults drive high performance sport cars to work.


    Not to mention Starbucks..

    Re: F430

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    JMShrink said:
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    nberry said:
    It still amazes me that adults drive high performance sport cars to work.


    Not to mention Starbucks..




    Re: F430

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    JMShrink said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    It still amazes me that adults drive high performance sport cars to work.


    Not to mention Starbucks..



    Good point...why would an adult want to drive a high performance sports car to Starbucks, except to....

    Re: F430

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    Rossi said:
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    STRADALE said:
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    Patriek said:
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    Mike S said:
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    Patriek said:
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    zzboba said:
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    Wolvy said:
    Hi,

    Someone on pistonheads said these are normal UK cars. Not sure - think I will have to ring one of the dealers and ask!

    Anybody answer my other points?

    Wolvy



    If you're concerned about resale value, go for the F1.
    And it's more fun either.



    I think you should buy a car for yourself and NOT for the "resale value"



    Yes, if you're going to be worried about mileage your put on etc. etc. You're never going to enjoy the car 100%, look after the car though and just enjoy it. Worry about the $ later.



    That's what I meant ...
    If you buy such a car and configure it, so it has a good resale value, than I think you can never fully enjoy it.
    When I buy a car, I choose the color and options that I want, and I don't buy a car for the one who will enjoy it after me !
    I know Nick will think otherwise about it, I almost think that Nick only drives a F because of the resale value





    When I spec.d out my F430 my salesman advised me that the electric seats would have better re-sale but I wanted the racing seats (lots of reasons) so that's what I ordered. With the hault of all 430 racing seats for the rest of production it appears like the racing seats may actually increase the re-sale of my car now instead. Lucky,lucky.



    As long as you didn't order them in XS...




    In the picture do I look XS? lol!!. No, ordered them in large.

    Re: F430

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    JMShrink said:
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    nberry said:
    It still amazes me that adults drive high performance sport cars to work.


    Not to mention Starbucks..



    After a spirited drive, there nothing like a doppio machiatto.

    Re: F430

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    VKSF said:
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    STRADALE said:
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    Patriek said:
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    Mike S said:
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    Patriek said:
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    zzboba said:
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    Wolvy said:
    Hi,

    Someone on pistonheads said these are normal UK cars. Not sure - think I will have to ring one of the dealers and ask!

    Anybody answer my other points?

    Wolvy



    If you're concerned about resale value, go for the F1.
    And it's more fun either.



    I think you should buy a car for yourself and NOT for the "resale value"



    Yes, if you're going to be worried about mileage your put on etc. etc. You're never going to enjoy the car 100%, look after the car though and just enjoy it. Worry about the $ later.



    That's what I meant ...
    If you buy such a car and configure it, so it has a good resale value, than I think you can never fully enjoy it.
    When I buy a car, I choose the color and options that I want, and I don't buy a car for the one who will enjoy it after me !
    I know Nick will think otherwise about it, I almost think that Nick only drives a F because of the resale value





    When I spec.d out my F430 my salesman advised me that the electric seats would have better re-sale but I wanted the racing seats (lots of reasons) so that's what I ordered. With the hault of all 430 racing seats for the rest of production it appears like the racing seats may actually increase the re-sale of my car now instead. Lucky,lucky.



    Doesn't your US dealer just have the gentlemen's agreement that one rcvs MSRP back upon trading-in 430/599 in 6-12 mos to that dealer, for next latest/greatest F @MSRP???.....no matter mileage/color/options, etc (if mileage is >>5K mis, major dealers seem to get regular custs another new F sooner as needed )....and even airship cost can be added to sticker....


    F indeed provides a very cost-effective ownership expce in US to its repeat buyers, w/frequently refreshed samples of F's latest/greatest technologies....

    That said, even if I had to buy F in EU w/P/MB-like resale value, I'd spec it to my tastes (as I do w/the deprec-prone new P/MB I buy every yr in US )....after all, any F/P is a discretionary toy that becomes obsolete in a yr or so....and inevitably picks up stone chips/windshield chips and CCM/clutch wear&tear if enjoyed appropriately....no matter how carefully detailed/garaged/parked.....




    MSRP back for 6-12 month old cars wouldn't be a good deal imo, not in the NorthEast anyway. I'm MAKING money on my trade and I have the car 2 years. But to answer your question - It's gentleman's agreement that to get a new car at msrp you will trade your car back to them, otherwise forget about it. In other words you have to be an existing customer AND trade your car back to them directly. Reason being is obvious- They make money in both places. This I can understand because my dealer would never be able to survive on the 40 new cars they sell every year. Trade in price isn't really discussed until about the time of trade because who knows what condition the car will be in and the market value is generally well known. But yes it's generally understood that unless the car is in some type of major accident you wont lose money. Anyone that's taken a spirited drive w/ me can tell you I enjoy the hell out of the car but in terms of "stone chips/windshield chips" Nadda one on my car.

    I could understand guys that pick options because of re-sale but for me it's such an emotional purchase that I spec. my car exactly how I want it and if someone else after me appreciates it too then great, if not no biggy. Last thing I'm going to do w/ a Ferrari is spend $250k and then get the car and the wish I had ordered an option I wanted. Ya neva know what's going to happen and what's going to sell the strongest, take the racing seats for instance, now they will probably ADD value to the car because of that 10% of buyers that want racing seats and Ferrari type guys always want what they cant have.

    Re: F430

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    nberry said:
    Quote:
    JMShrink said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    It still amazes me that adults drive high performance sport cars to work.


    Not to mention Starbucks..



    After a spirited drive, there nothing like a doppio machiatto.


    I actually prefer straight doppio espresso with some raw sugar. I'll have to give the doppio machiatto a try.

    Re: F430

    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Quote:
    DavidSF said:
    Quote:
    Patriek said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    . Whatever I buy, (and price is no object) it must hold its value compare to other competitors.



    So otherwise you won't buy a Ferrari !



    Ah, it all makes sense now. Nick secretly covets the 997TT but didn't buy it because of its depreciation. That's why he constantly puts it down.

    David



    Why would I do something stupid like buying a 997TT? If I wanted a fast daily car which is comfortable with plenty of room and safe, I would buy a M5 for about 20% less. It still amazes me that adults drive high performance sport cars to work.



    I drive my 997 S cab to work everyday. (50 miles a day). There's times where I'd rather be in my SUV when I'm stuck in traffic etc. but for some of those miles where I can nail the throttle or take a turn really hard taking the Porsche makes the 1.3 hrs I spend in my car everyday LOTS OF FUN! As opposed to when I take an ordinary car to work,,,, when I'm in the Porsche I really do enjoy and look forward to the drive,,,,,BOTH WAYS! There's no other hobby I enjoy more so why not do it TWICE every single day ?

    Having the convertible makes the commute even better. You must know? The only way I think it could be better is if it were a turbo cabriolet !

    Hope that helps answer your question.

    Re: F430

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    STRADALE said:
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    VKSF said:
    Quote:
    STRADALE said:
    Quote:
    Patriek said:
    Quote:
    Mike S said:
    Quote:
    Patriek said:
    Quote:
    zzboba said:
    Quote:
    Wolvy said:
    Hi,

    Someone on pistonheads said these are normal UK cars. Not sure - think I will have to ring one of the dealers and ask!

    Anybody answer my other points?

    Wolvy



    If you're concerned about resale value, go for the F1.
    And it's more fun either.



    I think you should buy a car for yourself and NOT for the "resale value"



    Yes, if you're going to be worried about mileage your put on etc. etc. You're never going to enjoy the car 100%, look after the car though and just enjoy it. Worry about the $ later.



    That's what I meant ...
    If you buy such a car and configure it, so it has a good resale value, than I think you can never fully enjoy it.
    When I buy a car, I choose the color and options that I want, and I don't buy a car for the one who will enjoy it after me !
    I know Nick will think otherwise about it, I almost think that Nick only drives a F because of the resale value





    When I spec.d out my F430 my salesman advised me that the electric seats would have better re-sale but I wanted the racing seats (lots of reasons) so that's what I ordered. With the hault of all 430 racing seats for the rest of production it appears like the racing seats may actually increase the re-sale of my car now instead. Lucky,lucky.



    Doesn't your US dealer just have the gentlemen's agreement that one rcvs MSRP back upon trading-in 430/599 in 6-12 mos to that dealer, for next latest/greatest F @MSRP???.....no matter mileage/color/options, etc (if mileage is >>5K mis, major dealers seem to get regular custs another new F sooner as needed )....and even airship cost can be added to sticker....


    F indeed provides a very cost-effective ownership expce in US to its repeat buyers, w/frequently refreshed samples of F's latest/greatest technologies....

    That said, even if I had to buy F in EU w/P/MB-like resale value, I'd spec it to my tastes (as I do w/the deprec-prone new P/MB I buy every yr in US )....after all, any F/P is a discretionary toy that becomes obsolete in a yr or so....and inevitably picks up stone chips/windshield chips and CCM/clutch wear&tear if enjoyed appropriately....no matter how carefully detailed/garaged/parked.....




    MSRP back for 6-12 month old cars wouldn't be a good deal imo, not in the NorthEast anyway. I'm MAKING money on my trade and I have the car 2 years. But to answer your question - It's gentleman's agreement that to get a new car at msrp you will trade your car back to them, otherwise forget about it. In other words you have to be an existing customer AND trade your car back to them directly. Reason being is obvious- They make money in both places. This I can understand because my dealer would never be able to survive on the 40 new cars they sell every year. Trade in price isn't really discussed until about the time of trade because who knows what condition the car will be in and the market value is generally well known. But yes it's generally understood that unless the car is in some type of major accident you wont lose money. Anyone that's taken a spirited drive w/ me can tell you I enjoy the hell out of the car but in terms of "stone chips/windshield chips" Nadda one on my car.

    I could understand guys that pick options because of re-sale but for me it's such an emotional purchase that I spec. my car exactly how I want it and if someone else after me appreciates it too then great, if not no biggy. Last thing I'm going to do w/ a Ferrari is spend $250k and then get the car and the wish I had ordered an option I wanted. Ya neva know what's going to happen and what's going to sell the strongest, take the racing seats for instance, now they will probably ADD value to the car because of that 10% of buyers that want racing seats and Ferrari type guys always want what they cant have.



    We're on the same page

    My sense is every major US F dealer gives its repeat custs fair mkt trade-in value/MSRP (whichever is greater) on trade-ins (obviously within reason)....so, makes little sense to me why anyone wouldn't spec car to desired colors/options (obviously pink/purple, etc cause issues, but I suspect one's latitude re: colors, stitching, etc is fairly broad).....and enjoy the car as many miles as one can put on it, given constraints of many guys' multi-car fleets, weather, business/personal air travel scheds, etc

    Have had cars w/rock chips in first 1K mis....and others w/nothing occur.....it's random stuff....my view is any car is fully insured and easily disposable and replaced anyway....

    MB/P are starting to irritate some long-time loyalists w/their $50K+ one-yr deprec costs vs F's $0 deprec ....know a couple of guys who get new CL65 and new F every yr as daily commuter cars; they're getting early 599s...and if 599 proves as CL-like as promised (yet w/800 less lbs wt, a great exhaust note and fast paddleshifter tranny) these guys are planning to give up their much more expensive annual CL addiction....we shall see...

    Re: F430

    I do not trade my F-cars in. I consign them for sale and indicate the price which I usually get. The dealer takes a percentage of the sale price. He makes money selling me the car and makes money selling the car for me.

    Stradale, regarding driving a sport car to work I refer you to Shakespeare who wrote " If the year were playing holidays,/To sport would be tedious as to work"

    Hey Shrink. When you order the Doppio instruct them to do the following; start with a splash (shot) of steamed milk, followed by foam and the is the important part, the expresso last. The expresso poured through the foam and steamed milk enhances its flavor.

    I believe Machiatto means marked foam. Most Barista's in the US put the expresso in first and follow with the foam. That is a no no. The splash of steam milk is my preference.

    Re: F430

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    STRADALE said:
    In the picture do I look XS? lol!!.



    Er, no. Not really.

    Re: F430

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    nberry said:
    I do not trade my F-cars in. I consign them for sale and indicate the price which I usually get. The dealer takes a percentage of the sale price. He makes money selling me the car and makes money selling the car for me.

    Stradale, regarding driving a sport car to work I refer you to Shakespeare who wrote " If the year were playing holidays,/To sport would be tedious as to work"

    Hey Shrink. When you order the Doppio instruct them to do the following; start with a splash (shot) of steamed milk, followed by foam and the is the important part, the expresso last. The expresso poured through the foam and steamed milk enhances its flavor.

    I believe Machiatto means marked foam. Most Barista's in the US put the expresso in first and follow with the foam. That is a no no. The splash of steam milk is my preference.





    Gotcha but that's what the weekend F-Car is for!

    Re: F430

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    Rossi said:
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    STRADALE said:
    In the picture do I look XS? lol!!.



    Er, no. Not really.





    Heyyyyyyyy watch it you !

    Re: F430

    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Hey Shrink. When you order the Doppio instruct them to do the following; start with a splash (shot) of steamed milk, followed by foam and the is the important part, the expresso last. The expresso poured through the foam and steamed milk enhances its flavor.

    I believe Machiatto means marked foam. Most Barista's in the US put the expresso in first and follow with the foam. That is a no no. The splash of steam milk is my preference.



    It is the most usefull Rennteam post ever !

    Re: F430

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    STRADALE said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Why would I do something stupid like buying a 997TT? If I wanted a fast daily car which is comfortable with plenty of room and safe, I would buy a M5 for about 20% less. It still amazes me that adults drive high performance sport cars to work.



    I drive my 997 S cab to work everyday. (50 miles a day). There's times where I'd rather be in my SUV when I'm stuck in traffic etc. but for some of those miles where I can nail the throttle or take a turn really hard taking the Porsche makes the 1.3 hrs I spend in my car everyday LOTS OF FUN! As opposed to when I take an ordinary car to work,,,, when I'm in the Porsche I really do enjoy and look forward to the drive,,,,,BOTH WAYS! There's no other hobby I enjoy more so why not do it TWICE every single day ?

    Having the convertible makes the commute even better. You must know? The only way I think it could be better is if it were a turbo cabriolet !

    Hope that helps answer your question.



    Same here. I drive my 997S 25 miles round trip to work every day. Traffic is fairly light here on the 405 late in the morning so no stop-and-go traffic to deal with.

    Re: F430

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    SoCal Alan said:
    Quote:
    STRADALE said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Why would I do something stupid like buying a 997TT? If I wanted a fast daily car which is comfortable with plenty of room and safe, I would buy a M5 for about 20% less. It still amazes me that adults drive high performance sport cars to work.



    I drive my 997 S cab to work everyday. (50 miles a day). There's times where I'd rather be in my SUV when I'm stuck in traffic etc. but for some of those miles where I can nail the throttle or take a turn really hard taking the Porsche makes the 1.3 hrs I spend in my car everyday LOTS OF FUN! As opposed to when I take an ordinary car to work,,,, when I'm in the Porsche I really do enjoy and look forward to the drive,,,,,BOTH WAYS! There's no other hobby I enjoy more so why not do it TWICE every single day ?

    Having the convertible makes the commute even better. You must know? The only way I think it could be better is if it were a turbo cabriolet !

    Hope that helps answer your question.



    Same here. I drive my 997S 25 miles round trip to work every day. Traffic is fairly light here on the 405 late in the morning so no stop-and-go traffic to deal with.



    I think it has something to do with resale value (as Nick implicitly admitted). I suspect most of the Ferrari owners that hang out on rennteam aren't multi-millionaires and probably care about resale value, like Nick. I would imagine an F430 with 50k miles would have the same resale value as a 997TT with 10k miles

    David

    Re: F430

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    DavidSF said:
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    SoCal Alan said:
    Quote:
    STRADALE said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Why would I do something stupid like buying a 997TT? If I wanted a fast daily car which is comfortable with plenty of room and safe, I would buy a M5 for about 20% less. It still amazes me that adults drive high performance sport cars to work.



    I drive my 997 S cab to work everyday. (50 miles a day). There's times where I'd rather be in my SUV when I'm stuck in traffic etc. but for some of those miles where I can nail the throttle or take a turn really hard taking the Porsche makes the 1.3 hrs I spend in my car everyday LOTS OF FUN! As opposed to when I take an ordinary car to work,,,, when I'm in the Porsche I really do enjoy and look forward to the drive,,,,,BOTH WAYS! There's no other hobby I enjoy more so why not do it TWICE every single day ?

    Having the convertible makes the commute even better. You must know? The only way I think it could be better is if it were a turbo cabriolet !

    Hope that helps answer your question.



    Same here. I drive my 997S 25 miles round trip to work every day. Traffic is fairly light here on the 405 late in the morning so no stop-and-go traffic to deal with.



    I think it has something to do with resale value (as Nick implicitly admitted). I suspect most of the Ferrari owners that hang out on rennteam aren't multi-millionaires and probably care about resale value, like Nick. I would imagine an F430 with 50k miles would have the same resale value as a 997TT with 10k miles

    David



    Suspect most of the guys who get annual, "free" 430/599 also own SL/CL55/65, etc as daily commuter cars (which all have $50Kish one-yr deprec, no matter mileage). Most repeat F buyers tend to own multiple high-end cars; have short commutes; and have reasonably busy business/personal travel scheds, making it almost imposs to put more than 5K mis/yr on any one car before it's obsoleted and traded-in for some newer iteration....

    And many guys who are still active in a competitive, legitimate business are sensitive re: perception issues (among employees, colleagues, investors, etc) of daily F commuting vs more low-key daily 55/65 commuting and occasional F commuting.....and the Greenwich crowd faces gruesome winter weather, reducing use of their high-perf cars for 4-5 mos/yr

    That said, many of the richest guys in SilicVy seem to commute via SL55, not 65, or F .....even though they can drive whatever they choose w/fairly lim "perception" issues and no weather limitations.....and yet many of these same 55 commuters will casually spend the annual deprec cost of a 65 for cost of a one-way, 6hr SF-NYC pvt plane flt....

    Re: F430

    Quote:
    VKSF said:
    Quote:
    DavidSF said:
    Quote:
    SoCal Alan said:
    Quote:
    STRADALE said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Why would I do something stupid like buying a 997TT? If I wanted a fast daily car which is comfortable with plenty of room and safe, I would buy a M5 for about 20% less. It still amazes me that adults drive high performance sport cars to work.



    I drive my 997 S cab to work everyday. (50 miles a day). There's times where I'd rather be in my SUV when I'm stuck in traffic etc. but for some of those miles where I can nail the throttle or take a turn really hard taking the Porsche makes the 1.3 hrs I spend in my car everyday LOTS OF FUN! As opposed to when I take an ordinary car to work,,,, when I'm in the Porsche I really do enjoy and look forward to the drive,,,,,BOTH WAYS! There's no other hobby I enjoy more so why not do it TWICE every single day ?

    Having the convertible makes the commute even better. You must know? The only way I think it could be better is if it were a turbo cabriolet !

    Hope that helps answer your question.



    Same here. I drive my 997S 25 miles round trip to work every day. Traffic is fairly light here on the 405 late in the morning so no stop-and-go traffic to deal with.



    I think it has something to do with resale value (as Nick implicitly admitted). I suspect most of the Ferrari owners that hang out on rennteam aren't multi-millionaires and probably care about resale value, like Nick. I would imagine an F430 with 50k miles would have the same resale value as a 997TT with 10k miles

    David



    Suspect most of the guys who get annual, "free" 430/599 also own SL/CL55/65, etc as daily commuter cars (which all have $50Kish one-yr deprec, no matter mileage). Most repeat F buyers tend to own multiple high-end cars; have short commutes; and have reasonably busy business/personal travel scheds, making it almost imposs to put more than 5K mis/yr on any one car before it's obsoleted and traded-in for some newer iteration....

    And many guys who are still active in a competitive, legitimate business are sensitive re: perception issues (among employees, colleagues, investors, etc) of daily F commuting vs more low-key daily 55/65 commuting and occasional F commuting.....and the Greenwich crowd faces gruesome winter weather, reducing use of their high-perf cars for 4-5 mos/yr

    That said, many of the richest guys in SilicVy seem to commute via SL55, not 65, or F .....even though they can drive whatever they choose w/fairly lim "perception" issues and no weather limitations.....and yet many of these same 55 commuters will casually spend the annual deprec cost of a 65 for cost of a one-way, 6hr SF-NYC pvt plane flt....



    Then does that mean people who drive their 997s everyday don't have any other car to drive? I don't think so.

    David

     
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