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    997 GT3 first 1000 mile report!

    Now that I can use the cars full rev range & having completed the Milbrook experience course plus a good few weeks of daily commute, I thought it was time for a first ownership report on the 997GT3.-

    Plus points +

    This car means business & as you approach it shouts "focussed sense of purpose," not so much because of the huge rear wing & gaping front air scoops, more because it sits so low hunkered down, wheels filling the arches, front splitter skimming the ground! You know it means business before you have even turned a wheel, hunker down into the "grippy" seat & as you wrap your hands around the chunky Alcantara steering wheel you feel the horns start growing out of your head! The further good new is when you can resist the calling of the race-car inside, it is also pretty fine on the drudge of the daily commute!
    The car is awesome, alive, you feel part of the machine! Even better (IMO) than some of the past Pork with over twitchy steering, it filters out what is unnecessary & leaves the pure feel-some detail. It is direct, darty, obedient, you sort of "feel" it around corners & it doesn't hop & skip & twitch like GT3's past on bumpy B roads, it follows your directions rather than the road surfaces! There is zero body roll & its cornering potential is simply gobsmaking! I thought the car defied the laws of physics in the hands of the instructor at Milbrook! You can feel it listen, move and come alive, directly in line with your inputs, much more so than the Turbo or C2 (996 or 997)!
    It sounds awesome, from grumble to guttural growl, to bellow, then a howl then a screaming howl & above 4500 revs it pulls as fast as pretty much anything else on the road as you scream towards the 8400 rpm limit! At Milbrook I hit just under 180mph & the car was still pulling like a train & it stops as quickly as it goes! On a twisty track this car is unbeatable for its combination of grunt, grip, interaction, feedback & ability at this price point, whilst still being able to drive you in relative comfort over 100 miles on an M road! I haven't encountered any major issues with the low splitter & it offers a ride pretty much as good as the 996 with 030, (firm but fair!!) yet the handling balance is hard core! And this to me is the revelation in the new GT3, you can have your cake & eat it, with standard seats (plus C-G lock for track)& a decent upgraded stereo it is perfectly comfortable for my daily drive into traffic, but when the empty B road route opens up it rips off its suit , puts its pants over its trousers & turns into super-car!!

    Minus points -

    I'm not 100% sure about some of its styling or image, coming out of an AMV8 I have noticed much more aggression & less courtesy from other road users. On the move it certainly looks supercar, but parked up it can look a bit aftermarket Scooby-ish from some angles (without the gold wheels) add a lairy paint colour & it also has the equivalent of gold wheels! Halfords here we come, but you certainly can't argue with its driving credentials or value & looks are subjective!
    The gearbox is very notchy & obstructive when cold, but very quick & direct when fully warmed up!
    There is a vibration on all the cars around 3k revs, variable & it is only a problem if you have major rattles, mine is minor!
    It smokes on start up more than other Pork I've had, but mine seems to be doing less each week!
    My brakes are grumbling badly when used hard, with the odd load thump, I'm going to get this checked!
    We have all commented on the short life of the tyres & their increased aquaplaning risk, but they are awesome when warmed up! But one negative not commented on, is the fact that stone chips stick to them like glue, only to be flung off as you build speed, I already have a deep stone chip on the drivers door believe it or not, from those sticky front tyres, don't know how it will fair as the mileage grows.

    Summary:

    I think Porsche have achieved the "win-win" scenerio with this car, it isn't vastly better than the 996GT3/RS in terms of its ultimate driver involvement or performance, but it is a quantum leap forward in terms of refinement & on road handling without loosing the "ultimate drivers car tag"! Two cars in one....stuck in a traffic jam with the decent stereo playing in relative comfort it is pretty much as good as any other 997, but on track or favourite B road, it is on an entirely higher level as a pure drivers car! Oh & it sounds better than any standard 911 ever!!!!

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    Nice write up...hopefully get mine soon.

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    I loved your write-up Thanks and enjoy it in good health.

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    beautiful machine, I WANT one!!!

    great review.

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    Nice write up.
    I too have an RS and had a 996GT3. The notchy shifting when cold is normal and was par for the course as well for the 996GT3. Also, the 996GT3 engine had a rattle that started at 2200 rpm but went away at 2550 rpm - also normal. I hear the same rattling at almost the same rpm in my new RS as well.

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    the ultimate pcar for me....AAARGHHHH

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    porkernut said:

    The gearbox is very notchy & obstructive when cold, but very quick & direct when fully warmed up!




    How long do you have to drive before the gear box warms up? Then is it an compliant as a regular 997? BTW, the notchiest gearbox I every had was in a 5-speed 964 RS America. The lack of smooth shifting really dampened my enthusiasm for the car. THanks.

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    chipper said:
    How long do you have to drive before the gear box warms up? Then is it an compliant as a regular 997? BTW, the notchiest gearbox I every had was in a 5-speed 964 RS America. The lack of smooth shifting really dampened my enthusiasm for the car. THanks.



    Chipper, it soon warms up, but is always more "mechanical" than a regular 997. I wouldn't worry, it is unlikely to spoil your fun, it is only a pain when stone cold, otherwise its all part of the extra interaction with the car!

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    Grea report

    Any pixz from the track day?

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    Pokernut, how is the clutch? Porsche contends that it is comfortable enough for everyday driving? Do you think so?

    Also, have you done much street driving in the rain? How do those cup tires work on everyday wet roads?

    Cheers, mate!

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    pokernut,
    what is the tire pressure that porsche recommends for the pilot cup tires?
    thx

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    Guys by the way its not Pokernut, its Porkernut, Pork as in Porsche
    Sorry no pictures on the track day, cameras aren't allowed at Milbrook as it is a car test facility!

    Quote:
    chipper said:
    Pokernut, how is the clutch? Porsche contends that it is comfortable enough for everyday driving? Do you think so?
    Also, have you done much street driving in the rain? How do those cup tires work on everyday wet roads?
    Cheers, mate!



    The clutch is fine, although a little heavier than a regular 997s, the tyres are honestly ok in the wet, providing they aren't well worn or you are driving fast in large areas of standing water.

    Quote:
    colonel said:
    pokernut,
    what is the tire pressure that porsche recommends for the pilot cup tires?
    thx



    29psi front 33 rear, why are you running them as well?

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    Very nice. Is it GT silver? How long did you wait for it? I put down deposit a couple of weeks ago without a specified delivery time. So far I am going for white but not absolutely sure. Seems to me that the choice of car is easier than colour. Crazy, I know...

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    Hi Lu, i waited nearly a year, came out of a 996TT & tried an AMV8 whilst I waited for the Gt3, both fabulous cars.
    The car is Arctic Silver, the picture was taken late evening, this will give you a better idea of the colour.....

    P.S. colour is so personal go for what you want, this car is about the driving!

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    Pokernut, nice color. I started my order with arctic silver, but then got talked into white. I have an arctic silver C2 now on stone grey and like it very much. I'll keep your photo handy and see if it makes me want to change my mind back. Attached is what my car should look like as presently configured.

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    Good write-up. I agree w/ you comments. The tranny gets looser w/ more miles. Mine broke-in superbly.. It's a beast

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    1st gear could feel notchy especially when new (less than 2000 miles) and cold. Tap the gas paddle a little from N to 1st gear makes it a little easier.

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    Sorry to hear that your car smokes upon start-up.
    Mine is smoke free with over 2k miles.

    What was your break-in regime?

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    gweedo911 said:
    Good write-up. I agree w/ you comments. The tranny gets looser w/ more miles. Mine broke-in superbly.. It's a beast



    Cheers Gweedo ,glad to hear the gearbox will loosen up, how many miles have you done now, any issues???

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    Trundle_GT3 said:
    Sorry to hear that your car smokes upon start-up.
    Mine is smoke free with over 2k miles.
    What was your break-in regime?



    Hi Trundle, your lucky on the smoke front, all my Pork has done occasionally on start up, it can be a little embarrassing when your shiny new car disappears into a cloud of oil smoke!
    with regards to running in our Uk hand book is very vague, it doesn't specify rev limits just a sensible approach for the first 1800 miles!!!
    I did the first 300 at less than 3k revs although I used full mid-range grunt to seal the engine! After that I added 1k per 100 miles, so by 800 miles I allowed 8k revs, not all the time just sensibly now & again to ensure it frees up across the rev range!
    As you guys know above 4500 revs this car flies , so it does tempt you go for that red line......!
    What did you do?

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    Great writeup, thanks.

    For the reasons you stated, I never thought that R comps were good for the street. Between propensity to flat, wear, stones, cold grip, wet grip, Rcomps are too narrow focused for a street car. I plan on PS2s and save the R comps for the track.

    OTOH, I'm glad Porsche developed the suspension around sticky tires! It makes a difference.

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    frayed said:
    Great writeup, thanks.

    For the reasons you stated, I never thought that R comps were good for the street. Between propensity to flat, wear, stones, cold grip, wet grip, Rcomps are too narrow focused for a street car. I plan on PS2s and save the R comps for the track.

    OTOH, I'm glad Porsche developed the suspension around sticky tires! It makes a difference.




    So you're going to immediately remove your Cup tires/tyres on the GT3 and put on PS2s? Since I live in a rainy climate I had thought of doing the same, although I find Continentals a quietier more comfortable tire/trye. Anyway, when I mentioned this in another post, one responder said not to do that or I would "emasculate" the GT3. Not sure what that means in practical terms where the rubber meets the road. But I do not want to worry about aquaplaning during one of our torrential downpours ...

    What do you think?

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    Great write-up, thanks!

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    The white is growing on me more and more especially w/ the GT3. Nice.

     
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