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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    still a bit early for a 992T


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Porsche Cayman GT4 RS expected in 2020...

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    Link: https://www.autobild.de/artikel/porsche-718-cayman-gt4-rs-2020-motor-erlkoenig-pdk-15745637.html

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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

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    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    bluelines:

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    tesxting while driving on the Ring. Bold!!! Smiley


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Sport Auto is supposed to do a lap in the GT4 today at the Ring.


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPQ-N4ZVLdE

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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Watched it last night - A bit boring, isn't it ? Unless somebody likes to monitor WR's face concentrating and / or the odd one or two occations he checked his stop watch...since I do like to follow carfection usually, the content of this video was close to zero...


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KocpvxPsgho


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    2020 Porsche Cayman GT4 RS...

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    Link: https://www.evo.co.uk/201769/porsche-cayman-gt4-rs-spied-pictures

    ...coming soon! Smiley


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Wow! Rear wing looks like it's magnetically levitated...

     


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    They sure are some ugly wing mounts.  Hopefully they're fake and the real ones look more like the Clubsport ones - still a swan-neck but more like the GT3 RS ones.


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    DaveGordon:

    They sure are some ugly wing mounts.  Hopefully they're fake and the real ones look more like the Clubsport ones - still a swan-neck but more like the GT3 RS ones.

    That's my guess...


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Grant:
    DaveGordon:

    They sure are some ugly wing mounts.  Hopefully they're fake and the real ones look more like the Clubsport ones - still a swan-neck but more like the GT3 RS ones.

    That's my guess...


    Guys, that's camouflage...


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport — Driven by PistonHeads

    2020 sees the Porsche Sprint Challenge begin in Britain - we went to find out what those drivers are in for...

    (26 November 2019)

    While it never dominates motorsport headlines, modern GT4 racing is a real treat for sportscar fans. As other formulae apparently seek only to reduce diversity and embrace homogeneous, becoming almost silhouette racing in some cases, global GT4 is chock full of different layouts, powertrains and dimensions, levelled out for competitive racing - sort of - by Balance of Performance.

    Take a look at last year's British GT line up: in GT4 there were five different cars on the top step of the podium during the year, from mid-engined - V10 Audi R8 LMS GT4 and McLaren 570S GT4 - to front-engined - V8 Mustang and Aston Martin Vantage. For those who want noise, drama and excitement from their motorsport, plus a tangible link back to the production cars they may yearn to own, GT4 is a must-see.

    Many will be aware that Porsche made a recent foray into GT4 racing with the, er, old Cayman GT4 Clubsport, the car that Dan drove three years ago. His verdict? "It's clear there's class and composure there to reward all abilities, the natural balance of the Cayman package clearly a very sound basis on which to build a confidence-inspiring race car for any racer."

    A very encouraging opening gambit, then, but Porsche has gone about its replacement in a far more serious fashion. Most obviously that was displayed through showing racer ahead of road car, with more power from the 3.8-litre flat-six, a sliver more torque and a chunky price hike to reflect its possession of "significantly more racing genes".

    More than that, however, this new 718 GT4 CS represents the completion of Porsche's revised motorsport strategy for the UK. Where the upper echelons of track days and motorsport have been well served for a while by various GT3 derivatives, the new GT2 RS Clubsport and the 935, it would be a fairly extraordinary jump up the Motorsport pyramid from a Porsche Club championship in a 997 or similar - leave alone just a track day enthusiast - to something like those. Hence the introduction of the Porsche Classic Boxster Cup (which was Restoracing) and now the Porsche Sprint Challenge GB, which races exclusively with the 718 Clubsport - and should cost half as much per season as a Carrera Cup campaign.

    While, of course, it's still a pastime for the monied - £130k + VAT for the car, £12k registration fee, £7k for the most basic of spares packages - the Sprint Challenge does look a mighty tempting proposition. It's a Porsche Motorsport series, boasting technical assistance from Manthey Racing, with both Pro and Am championships, prize money and TV coverage. The 2020 calendar will see the Sprint Challenge support British GT and BTCC across 12 rounds, which sounds like a pretty cool opportunity for a series "likely" to be graded at National B level. Which means this could be someone's very first championship, racing a Porsche with live TV coverage. Moreover, should the bug bite hard - there's every reason it might - customers can upgrade their cars through a package from Manthey to make it eligible for international GT4 racing. Interesting...

    So that's some context, and why Porsche invited media to drive the pinnacle (Carrera Cup) and the base (Restoracing Boxster) of the UK pyramid, with 718 nicely occupying the middle ground. Silverstone at this time of year is a cold and bleak place, though there's nothing like racing Porsches to brighten the mood.

    In a way that 'proper' race cars always seem to - through some naughty negative camber on surprisingly small (18-inch) wheels, lizard-like ride height and spoilers that you know are actually doing something - the GT4 looks superb. There's attitude without it seeming gratuitous, a perfect stance, the sort of impeccable finish that only factory race cars seem to have.

    It also has that uniquely race car trait of being fiendishly difficult to get into, clambering through a roll cage to sit on the harnesses no less embarrassing however much it's practised. The Clubsport isn't far from perfect once in, though, the combination of control positioning, seat location and visibility putting the driver immediately at ease. That GT3 R-derived wheel does an excellent job of convincing the person behind it they're a far more serious racer, too...

    Starting the GT4 could hardly be simpler: flick the ignition switch, foot on the brake, turn the key. It idles purposefully but contently, moving away with no more drama than the road car thanks to the PDK transmission - note even the road car-donated lever.

    Which isn't to say the Clubsport is anything less than intimidating on the first couple of laps. While it comes equipped with a full suite of assists - ABS, TC, ESC - there's still steering response, brake feel and power, traction and outright speed to figure out. Last thing anybody would want is an amateurish incident just a few laps in...

    But as has always been the way with these mid-engined Porsches, both on track and road, there's a dynamic transparency, approachability and user friendliness that means the confidence to push doesn't take long to materialise. It was something noted by Dan in the drive of the 981 - "it's clear the car benefits from the Cayman's inherent balance and is very easy to drive straight out of the box" - and has clearly transferred to the 718 as well. It's predictable, for want of a better phrase; considerable accelerative and braking forces can be applied with unerring accuracy thanks to the pedal response and the damping permits kerb bites as big as you dare, while the assists remain politely tolerant of cack-handedness.

    It's a relatively easy car to drive, then, the GT4, but don't mistake that for something that lacks reward or engagement. That engine of course contributes a good chunk to that, the 3.8 ferociously howling to nearly 8,000rpm as more and more shift lights illuminate. It really rewards that commitment, too; peak torque may have risen 3lb ft from before, but the 718 is 20kg heavier than 981 and needs more revs - 6,600rpm against 4,750rpm - for that maximum. So rev the nuts out of it basically, revel in that sweet flat-six and don't change up until all the lights flash. The PDK actually complements the package, too, shift speed more than good enough for the performance on offer - if anything the only let down is that the lights can be a bit slow to react on the way back down.

    Stringing together what feels like a reasonable lap is a joy in the GT4, making the prospect of competing in a grid of them even more tantalising. It's a precise and accurate race car, one to be measured with rather than utilise brute force, yet don't mistake that for something that feels neutered or prescriptive. The Silverstone set up has a tad of safety understeer in, which seems wise, well communicated and easily quelled, a trait that could surely be altered to taste through the chassis adjustability.

    There's huge challenge and reward in eking out maximum momentum from the chassis' innate ability, the driver of course aided in that by the expertly calibrated controls. Crucially, given the premise of the series, the Clubsport feels like a race car shot through with engineering rigour, mechanical stamina and precocious ability (for the pros), while also boasting an accommodating, forgiving nature for those less experienced. Both will feel like they're deriving an authentic, gratifying experience from the racing, a laudable achievement and one that's surely much harder to create than to conjure up as ambition.

    So yeah, in one of the smaller journalistic revelations of the year, racers of all stripes will find a lot to like about this 718 GT4 Clubsport. It looks great, it sounds great, it drives quite superbly. A one-make race series of them, supporting the biggest championships in the UK, sounds like the perfect way to advertise those facts. It also sounds like the perfect way to show off your talents, in a one-make series in front of thousands of spectators. There's prize money, too, as an added incentive, as well as a tyre raffle each race weekend of the Sprint Challenge. Put simply, the car and the championship look pretty hard to argue with, given the vehicle's patent quality and the appeal of competing in a Porsche-backed series. Should anybody require a GT4 test driver, someone to hold a pit board or even just a tea boy, anything to be close to the Sprint Challenge, there's one more very willing body right here.

    Link: https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/porsche-718-cayman-gt4-clubsport---driven/41371

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    ***** Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport — Onboard Video by PistonHeads *****

    Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueeEio8Wypc

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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    718 Cayman GT4 evo car of the year 2019 
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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    bluelines:

    718 Cayman GT4 evo car of the year 2019 
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    Goddamn, saves me from enjoying the article!


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Always happy to assist indecision


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    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    That was good - thanks!


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    981 GT4 vs 718 GT4 exhaust at stand still. Listen to the second half of the video since the 718 had the PSE button OFF in the first half... not that it made that huge a difference enlightened 

     


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Omg what a difference. The 718 sounds horrible in comparison. Making me worry about my 992 GT3


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    I didn't expect such a difference either surprise still hoping the GT3 will be better though, those who heard the Speedster while not the same as pre-particle filter, don't seem to complain about the sound, and 992 GT3 should be similar?


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Starting my OPF RS in isolation doesn’t sound too bad, but start it up next to a non-filter car and the difference is plain to hear. Assume the 992 GT3 will sound the same. One redeeming thing is from the inside with the windows up the sound is pretty much the same. The main difference comes from the throttle bodies.


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    DaveGordon:

    Starting my OPF RS in isolation doesn’t sound too bad, but start it up next to a non-filter car and the difference is plain to hear. Assume the 992 GT3 will sound the same. One redeeming thing is from the inside with the windows up the sound is pretty much the same. The main difference comes from the throttle bodies.

    How are you liking the .3 RS in general, Dave?  Had enough good weather for proper impressions?


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    It’s good. Only took it to the track once due to the late delivery and had a frustrating time as I couldn’t get the tyres to work. Hopefully better in the new year, I think the long wait and buying hassles took the excitement away somewhat.


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    DaveGordon:

    It’s good. Only took it to the track once due to the late delivery and had a frustrating time as I couldn’t get the tyres to work. Hopefully better in the new year, I think the long wait and buying hassles took the excitement away somewhat.

    Well, I hope things improve in Spring kiss


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    The sound difference is significant at low revs, but under full load, it should be minimal.


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Gauss:

    The sound difference is significant at low revs, but under full load, it should be minimal.

    I watched the 718 GT4 (pre-production) turn some laps at the Ring (standing just off track at Pflanzgarten) and it was significantly quieter at full song as well.


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Grant:
    Gauss:

    The sound difference is significant at low revs, but under full load, it should be minimal.

    I watched the 718 GT4 (pre-production) turn some laps at the Ring (standing just off track at Pflanzgarten) and it was significantly quieter at full song as well.

    Didn’t the EU Authorities issue new enforcement statements on sports exhaust systems defeating the current noise regulations?   Porsche is just being proactive since it and the entire Volkswagen Group is under more intense scrutiny.  It was fun while it lasted. 


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    CGX car nut:
    Grant:
    Gauss:

    The sound difference is significant at low revs, but under full load, it should be minimal.

    I watched the 718 GT4 (pre-production) turn some laps at the Ring (standing just off track at Pflanzgarten) and it was significantly quieter at full song as well.

    Didn’t the EU Authorities issue new enforcement statements on sports exhaust systems defeating the current noise regulations?   Porsche is just being proactive since it and the entire Volkswagen Group is under more intense scrutiny.  It was fun while it lasted. 

    Yep...VW Group got very proactive to avoid future issues and bad press. Unfortunately. Smiley

    Only Lamborghini remained the same and believe it or not, the sound will stay as long as (legally) possible.

    There are rumors now that the Performante starting with August 2018 production and all Evo have already a "hidden" particulate filter because these cars already fulfill Euro 6d temp. Other sources indicate that it took Lamborghini some expensive engine/injection system/exhaust system mods to fulfill Euro 6d temp without a particulate filter. Take your pick, nobody really knows what is going on. I highly doubt the Performante or Evo have a particulate filter (it would be visible in the car's technical parts schematics), so I guess the second story about the expensive mods bears more truth to it.


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