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Jan 16, 2006 12:21:43 PM

Dasein: Veteran; Loc: Mountains of western NC, USA , United States; Posts: 933, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2005

Early oil change?

This has been debated before but I did a search for the past 12 weeks and didn't find anything specific to my question. P-car has 960 miles and goes in this week to replace a faulty sensor (headlights are mis-aligned). I know that, years ago, it was a good idea to change the oil and filter around 500 miles to rid the oil of any metal shavings/filings inherent in the engine production process.
I drive my car short distances but always long enough (and then some) for the oil to get to maximum temperature. I'll be changing the oil & filter once a year (that would be next Nov.) since it will take me a long time to get to 20,000 miles and the dealer suggested those parameters (20,000 miles OR once a year). I plan to keep this car for some time.
So, should I get an oil & filter change this coming week or just wait until Nov. 2006?
Thanks,
Don

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Jan 16, 2006 9:40:44 PM

bstew: Expert; Loc: NC, USA; Posts: 1797, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 11, 2005; Reply to: Dasein

Re: Early oil change?

I'm sure it can't hurt to change your oil early. Like you I plan on changing my oil once a year. I say go for it.

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Jan 17, 2006 12:30:21 AM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: bstew

Re: Early oil change?

I've been meaning to ask if anybody knows if the oil in our engines is specially concocted for the breakin of a new engine. If this were so it would be bad to change it too soon for "normal" oil.

If it's the same oil? If I were you, already taking car in for service, just have them do an oil change and forget about it.

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Jan 17, 2006 1:06:06 AM

KiwiCanuck: Co-Pilot; Loc: Canada; Posts: 210, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 14, 2005; Reply to: Dasein

Re: Early oil change?

Trust PAG on this ----- I am normally quick to change, but whether they say so or not, the oil is probably 'special'.

I changed the oil in my Acura TL a little early (although I had run it in very carefully ---- see the thread above on running in----- and then found out, that although the Acura National Service Advisory Group did not mention it, there WAS special oil in the engine.

You will also have added a few litres to the Carrera by the time the year is up ---- and there is lots of oil in this engine, so WAIT!

KiwiCanuck

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Jan 17, 2006 1:17:45 AM

Dasein: Veteran; Loc: Mountains of western NC, USA , United States; Posts: 933, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2005; Reply to: KiwiCanuck

Re: Early oil change?

Thanks to all. I know my 05 Honda DID COME WITH break-in oil (like the old days) so it makes sense your Acura did too. If the 911 does also, Porsche sure doesn't tell you.
I had to call Service today to reschedule my bad sensor replacement so I asked the Service Manager what he would do re: the oil & filter change. "If it were MY car, I'd wait and change it in something like 3,000 miles or when the first year is up next November", he said.
He also said the oil & filter change will run between $100 and $120, not bad considering the $200 plus I've been hearing on this forum.

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Jan 17, 2006 1:36:23 AM

Damian: Senior; Loc: Pa, USA; Posts: 646, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 10, 2005; Reply to: Dasein

Re: Early oil change?

I had dealer do an oil change at 1,000 miles, for $130 at least it gave me peace of mind as much as anything else.

I asked the service tech with 18 yrs. experience what he would do if it were his car, he said not a big deal either way but he would do it. Good salesmanship maybe. I've never heard any mention of the possibility of Porsche using special break-in oil until this thread.

Two BMW E46 M3's I've owned always required 1200 mile service (fluid dumps of engine oil, differential, can't remember maybe gearbox oil also).

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Jan 17, 2006 7:16:57 PM

edz: Rennteam Pro; Loc: South Orange County; Posts: 2022, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 11, 2005; Reply to: Damian

Re: Early oil change?

$130 is a good deal, I pay $240 in South CA. I am planning on Changing every 9 months.

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Jan 18, 2006 8:27:20 PM

911Carrera05: Newbie; Loc: Los Angeles, CA; Posts: 40, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 28, 2005; Reply to: edz

Re: Early oil change?

I just paid $225 at the dealer. 6,300 miles/11 months old.

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Jan 20, 2006 2:30:04 AM

911Fanatic: Co-Pilot; Loc: Alpharetta, Georgia; Posts: 176, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 26, 2005; Reply to: 911Carrera05

Re: Early oil change?

Changed my own at 10K. Gives me piece of mind. Very easy to perform and inexpensive compared to dealership. Porsche will perform 20K intervals.

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Jan 20, 2006 5:23:15 AM

vtrader: Veteran; Loc: Los Angeles; Posts: 1086, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 6, 2004; Reply to: 911Fanatic

Re: Early oil change?

I asked my service advisor and he said on a 997 to wait till 20k. On earlier 911s, it was a different story.

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Jan 22, 2006 5:26:08 AM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: vtrader

Re: Early oil change?

20,000 or 2 years makes me think more about resale value than will I have a problem. Had my 997s 1 year now and have done 6,300 miles. I think about resales as being being 60% the reason to have the oil changed versus 40% of there being an issue.

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Jan 22, 2006 12:02:11 PM

Ronnie: Co-Pilot; Loc: good old England (sometimes Hong Kong); Posts: 206, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 13, 2005; Reply to: EnglishManInNY

Re: Early oil change?

I spoke to the technician at my dealership when I was having my rattly handbrake replaced whether it was worth changing engine oil early or not. He said not a big issue if you don't, obviously better if you do.

I supplied my own oil as a local store (Halfords) were doing a special on Mobil 1 at the time. My Porsche centre charged about Pounds7 for a new filter and about Pounds50 for labour. Best bit for me was getting to have a good look underneath the car and at the engine itself. The oil after 4014 miles was not as black and dirty as I was expecting.

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Jan 26, 2006 3:46:21 AM

paulg1: Newbie; Loc: Texas; Posts: 34, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 7, 2005; Reply to: 911Fanatic

Re: Early oil change?

How did you go about changing oil on 997?
Some detailed 'how to' would be appreciated.
Thanks

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Jan 26, 2006 6:27:48 PM

P997C2S: Junior; Loc: North East - USA; Posts: 116, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 13, 2005; Reply to: paulg1

Re: Early oil change?

RennTech.org has a detailed oil change procedure in the DIY 996 section. The procedure is the same for the 997 but the oil refill might be different. Use the oil refill capacity in the 997 manual.

You should use the correct oil wrench to remove th filter housing to avoid cracking it.

I plan on changing my own oil yearly. If you DIY it's only $75 for the filter, seal and oil.

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