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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Misha011:

    Time for some small tweaks  ... again

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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    I can see that one indecision But not sure it is for the better. It is more a step back to Mk1.

    But generally this new front looks much better then before.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Basically  the whole car is still MK1 and I have a problem to accept this sharp / edgy parts ( headlights , rear bumper ... ) on overall soft and curved shape . 


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Misha011:

    Basically  the whole car is still MK1 and I have a problem to accept this sharp / edgy parts ( headlights , rear bumper ... ) on overall soft and curved shape . 

    The rear looks very "soft", this was what I meant, I don't think that the Panamera looks better like that. Maybe the design is "cleaner" now but in my opinion in a disadvantage for the overall Panamera design.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (ordered), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Misha011:

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    Do I miss something? Smiley There is some difference in these two, except contrast?


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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    SportCarGroup:
    Misha011:

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    Do I miss something? Smiley There is some difference in these two, except contrast?

    With Misha01 the game is always to spot  7 differences Smiley  But on this particular one there is only 1 , and it is not the contrast !Smiley


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     997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Not 1 ,   3 differences .   Smiley

    1. Rounded head lights  ( bottom cone )

    2. Bigger ( in vertical direction ) side air intakes

    3. Higher positioned LED's

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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Misha011:

    Not 1 ,   3 differences .   Smiley

    1. Rounded head lights  ( bottom cone )

    2. Bigger ( in vertical direction ) side air intakes

    3. Higher positioned LED's

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    Got it now  Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Saw again a facelifted Turbo with BB-UX license plate here in Italy (lake Garda) and again I barely noticed it. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (ordered), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    enlightened .. does not look good on theses pics and it's difficult to separate it from the pre-FL. It's really weird regards to colours. I was a former fan of black on most cars, but nowadays I prefer lighter colors and different shades of grey or silver in any form.


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Lukas:

    enlightened .. does not look good on theses pics and it's difficult to separate it from the pre-FL. It's really weird regards to colours. I was a former fan of black on most cars, but nowadays I prefer lighter colors and different shades of grey or silver in any form.

    Interesting.  I've just had the opposite experience.

    I just configured and ordered a 2014 Panamera Turbo here in the USA for delivery in September.  I was considering Agate or Carbon grey instead of my current car's gloss black.  After looking at quite a few examples of Agate and Carbon Panameras in local dealerships and on the street during a trip to Chicago, my wife and I decided that Black just looked better, particularly at night.

    To each his own Smiley


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    Mike

    Carrera GT + Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S + Panamera Turbo +  BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T + GT3 RS 4.0


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Porsche and Mercedes look good in silver

    Audi in white and BMW is shades of blue and grey.

    I don't know if these colour choices relates to my subconscious perception of  the various car marques that was formed over the years 

    Black only looks good on limousines, provided that it is brilliant black (not some sort of black with multi-colour undertones) and it is contrasted with lots of shiny chrome. It also looked good on 911s up to the 964 model, particularly on the classic Turbo models. Car surfacing is so elaborate and interesting nowadays (due to design and the capabilities of modern body panel stamping) that it is a pity to camouflage it all with a black body colour. Black is a disguise colour, hence the black developmet cars in spy pictures.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    I had a non-Turbo Panamera FL behind me yesterday. Colour was some kind of silver with a shade of blue in it. I don't know the name of this colour (rhodium?), but the car looked very good. kiss


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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    http://www.porsche.com/germany/models/panamera/panamera/gallery/?gtabindex=3

    The catalogue has now been online for a few days... But it's only in German. I've tried the Porsche Middle East/UK/USA/Australia sites and none of them even have the "Brochure" or "Catalogue" tabs, so not sure where to get an English pdf.

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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Thanks for sharing!


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Saw another Panamera facelift today, a dark colored (black?) car with LB-PF license plate.

    I had to look twice to see the difference, again. Good for owners of the "old" car. kiss


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    I really wish the Nav unit had been upgraded to a larger display unit... Oh well.


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    RC:

    Saw another Panamera facelift today, a dark colored (black?) car with LB-PF license plate.

    I had to look twice to see the difference, again. Good for owners of the "old" car. kiss

    Styling changes are subtle and need a light colour to stand out, like white or silver. It is a facelift anyway, not a new model, but in the right direction.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    reginos:
    RC:

    Saw another Panamera facelift today, a dark colored (black?) car with LB-PF license plate.

    I had to look twice to see the difference, again. Good for owners of the "old" car. kiss

    Styling changes are subtle and need a light colour to stand out, like white or silver. It is a facelift anyway, not a new model, but in the right direction.

    Just wanted to point out that owners of the "old" Panamera actually have no real incentive to "switch" since the facelift is pretty subtle in my opinion. 

    Regarding the larger PCM unit: I am disappointed too, especially since there was a rumor about testing a larger display but apparently Porsche limited the facelift because 2015 could already be the year of the next generation. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Historically in other models has a new generation come out two years after a facelift?  


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    No, 3 to 3.5 years.


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    keithos27:

    Historically in other models has a new generation come out two years after a facelift?  

    The next gen Panamera is rumored to be based on a different platform, this is why the next gen may come earlier than expected (2015). This is of course...as always...a rumor. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Understood.. but then waiting for a Turbo S that may not show until 2016 at the earliest, right?  Again, all speculation...


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    keithos27:

    Understood.. but then waiting for a Turbo S that may not show until 2016 at the earliest, right?  Again, all speculation...

    If you mean the next gen Turbo S? Well...I kind of got the feeling that Porsche will adapt the 911 Turbo/Turbo S strategy to the Cayenne and Panamera too.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    Argh the age old question of get now vs. get the next gen.... lol


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    keithos27:

    Argh the age old question of get now vs. get the next gen.... lol

    I usually don't wait for a facelift but I would wait for a next generation. This is what I did with the 991 Turbo. I could have switched from my former 997 Turbo pre-facelift to a 997 Turbo S facelift (which is a much better car) but I decided to wait for the next gen 991 Turbo/Turbo S or get something else (got the Panamera Turbo S, which will go end of this month).

    I know it is a difficult decision but if you want to buy, maybe you should wait. If you want to lease, get a 2-3 year lease for a facelift model and be done with it.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: Panamera Facelift 2013

    a 2-3 year old Panamera is probably your best bet...


     
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