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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    No car made by a well know name should be limited... They should make as many as they can sell (minus 1)...


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    SciFrog:

    No car made by a well know name should be limited... They should make as many as they can sell (minus 1)...

    Have to agree with you on that..


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    2010 997.2 GT3        2012  987.2 S BE #262/987        2016 981 GT4


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Some reliable informations:
    - hood and roof from GT3RS
    - I have told you at least ten times GT3 engine and manual
    - GT3 and rest 991 assembly parts - so not very expensive in buildung

    and now something I could not believe and maybe not so reliable, price under GT3RS and above GT3. 


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    ALDO:

    Some reliable informations:
    - hood and roof from GT3RS
    - I have told you at least ten times GT3 engine and manual
    - GT3 and rest 991 assembly parts - so not very expensive in buildung

    and now something I could not believe and maybe not so reliable, price under GT3RS and above GT3. 

    I think the car is light ( lightweight carpet etc..) GT3 RS parts etc... for the price i have some doubt above a GT3...I think more than 200k


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Yes, lightweight by omitting insulation and using GT3RS materials. Also the car will get special interiour color. The car will be build form standard assembly parts (GT3 most, some GT3RS parts and the rest normal 991.1 parts). 

    About the price I was very confused, from a very reliable source I have heard 190.000 €. I didn´t ask with or without German VAT (19%). A price between GT3 and GT3RS is for  me unbelievable but that what I have heard.


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    AM


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    any news on the date for the press embargo, 28th ?
     


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Front fenders of the RS as well?


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    are they different from GT3?


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    AM


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Carbon, wider and ventilated.


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Sorry! I misunderstood! Thought bumper.

    No GT3RS fender


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    AM


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    ALDO:

     

    About the price I was very confused, from a very reliable source I have heard 190.000 €. I didn´t ask with or without German VAT (19%). A price between GT3 and GT3RS is for  me unbelievable but that what I have heard.

    If it is only a parts bin between 991 m Gt3 and some Gt3 RS , the price would make sense 


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    ALDO:

    and now something I could not believe and maybe not so reliable, price under GT3RS and above GT3. 

    That is what I heard also ($150k - $160k).  In US, GT3 is $131k and RS is $175k


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    The price of $160K USD is not c/w previous limited editions like the Speedster or the non US Sport Classic, but perhaps there is a first time for everything.


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    DaveC:

    The price of $160K USD is not c/w previous limited editions like the Speedster or the non US Sport Classic, but perhaps there is a first time for everything.

    The RS 4.0 was $180k and was probably more special than the R...


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Grant:
    DaveC:

    The price of $160K USD is not c/w previous limited editions like the Speedster or the non US Sport Classic, but perhaps there is a first time for everything.

    The RS 4.0 was $180k and was probably more special than the R...

    You have the final spec of the car? me i have just rumor...Wait Geneva and ok after say me is more special than an RS 4.0 ok? ;)


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    LP997:
    Grant:
    DaveC:

    The price of $160K USD is not c/w previous limited editions like the Speedster or the non US Sport Classic, but perhaps there is a first time for everything.

    The RS 4.0 was $180k and was probably more special than the R...

    You have the final spec of the car? me i have just rumor...Wait Geneva and ok after say me is more special than an RS 4.0 ok? ;)

     

    The R won't have a 'special' engine like the 4.0 in the 997 RS 4.0 version. It will run on the 'regular' GT3 3.8L engine for one.


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Whoopsy:
    LP997:
    Grant:
    DaveC:

    The price of $160K USD is not c/w previous limited editions like the Speedster or the non US Sport Classic, but perhaps there is a first time for everything.

    The RS 4.0 was $180k and was probably more special than the R...

    You have the final spec of the car? me i have just rumor...Wait Geneva and ok after say me is more special than an RS 4.0 ok? ;)

     

    The R won't have a 'special' engine like the 4.0 in the 997 RS 4.0 version. It will run on the 'regular' GT3 3.8L engine for one.

    You have this information from?


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Multiple sources that if you want to know, I will have to kill you after. angel


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Whoopsy:

    De multiples sources que si vous voulez savoir, je vais devoir vous tuer après. l'ange

    ok wait and see... the answer is not so far :)


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    This is starting to sound almost logical.... amazing.

    However if the next GT3 becomes available with a manual option, as is rumored, it would definitely clutter the space. The R would need to be blessed with many other or extra tidbits to keep a special place in the lineup which is what it is looking to be. BUT if the next GT3 is only PDK I can't picture the somewhat lower price level for the R as is being suggested...

     

    Jax


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Hence the need for the 911R to have rear seats...


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    SciFrog:
    Hence the need for the 911R to have rear seats...

    If the R's mission is "as light as possible" then rear seats should not be included (unless optional).


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Grant:
    SciFrog:
    Hence the need for the 911R to have rear seats...

    If the R's mission is "as light as possible" then rear seats should not be included (unless optional).

    the more light is possible, the principal interest of the car. I have convinced that Porsche keep the R spirit... lightweight car with a big motor ( 4.0 or 3.8) i dream to have the 4.0 :) 


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Even the RS is not a light car. So what if the R sheds 50lbs, it won't really change anything. Look at the Spyder, they didn't really make it lighter...


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Wait Geneva...


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    SciFrog:

    Even the RS is not a light car. So what if the R sheds 50lbs, it won't really change anything. Look at the Spyder, they didn't really make it lighter...

    RS has huge wheels/tires/brakes and very wide body with heavy gearbox and RWS (and large battery required by rws).  R will have none of that, afaik.


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    The GT3 and GT3 RS have the same weight... So basically a narrow body GT3 with some of the weight savings applied to the RS? 60lbs?


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    SciFrog:

    The GT3 and GT3 RS have the same weight... So basically a narrow body GT3 with some of the weight savings applied to the RS? 60lbs?

    Manual Gearbox alone is 66 pounds.  Smaller wheels/tires/brakes can make a big difference (especially to unsprung & rotating mass).  Standard Lightweight battery can save at least 30 pounds (can be smaller than optional lightweight batt in RS), etc...

    I think something quite close to GT4 weight is possible (officially under 3,000)


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    So 100lbs. 3% of the weight of the car...


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    SciFrog:

    So 100lbs. 3% of the weight of the car...

    I'm thinking around 150 lbs (don't forget to deduct weight for wheels/tires/brakes - smaller standard PCCB's?).  Remember that each pound of rotating/unsprung mass lost has the effect of losing many pounds (thinking around 7 or 8, IIRC).  It could feel quite different (more than the number imply).


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


     
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