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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Whoopsy:
    Oh BTW, I don't even remotely try to trust anything reported on Rennlist, seems like everyone there is just basically try to be as outrageous as possibly in their bets and if those come true they will be the biggest 'good source' for Porsche info, it must be a ego thing.

    Agreed Life is way too short to read rennlist.  I hope you're right on 4L NA, I dont think I'll complete my order if it's a turbo  junior GT2Smiley

    PS  DEar Porsche, Please allow me to order a wingless GT3 and GT3 RS


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    GT needs to stay N/A... a turbo would kill it. For that have a Turbo, or GT2, or next up a GT4 angry


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    watt:
    Whoopsy:
    Oh BTW, I don't even remotely try to trust anything reported on Rennlist, seems like everyone there is just basically try to be as outrageous as possibly in their bets and if those come true they will be the biggest 'good source' for Porsche info, it must be a ego thing.

    Agreed Life is way too short to read reenlist.  ...

    I remember reading some older threads on there where RC was giving them actual factual information about the 991.1 TT(S) and they were all telling him he didn't know what he was talking about.


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    Took my .1 GT3 out for a bit of an airing in the sunshine this afternoon and lit it up a few times.. man what a noise it makes! Would be such a shame to lose that to a turbo..
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    DaveGordon:
    Took my .1 GT3 out for a bit of an airing in the sunshine this afternoon and lit it up a few times.. man what a noise it makes! Would be such a shame to lose that to a turbo..

    On the flip side it would make your's even more desirable SmileySmiley


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    Certainly would ;-)
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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    RC, what is the confusion on the GT4?  Seems to me that the success of the car has confirmed to Porsche that they need to offer a manual in the GT3.  But in terms of the engine, where to go?  A high revvning N/A motor that would outperform the 4-cylinder in the 718 would surely be expensive.  A 4-cylinder in a GT4 might not come off well, unless it has crazy performance, which Porsche can never due in a Cayman.


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    And the answer is that that may not be another GT4 for a while...........

    Porsche don't have another engine NA engine right now outside of the new 4.0L, if they put that in the Cayman then the next GT3 will be out gunned. 

    If Porsche do another GT4, that car will be a turbo-ed 4 cylinder, with the emphasis of the link towards the 4 cylinder 919, no matter how remote that is.


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    Yes, there will be another Cayman GT4 with a six-cylinder naturally aspirated engine and manual gearbox.

    The success of the original GT4 has been well noted by Porsche management, providing a great "halo" model for the range.

    The Cayman GT4 was heavily oversubscribed and sold out much quicker than expected, as demonstrated by the secondary market levels.

    The flat-six engine is a defining characteristic that cannot be replicated by a four-cylinder turbo. Indeed, the five-cylinder engine in the Audi TT RS has considerably more character than the new four-cylinder 718 engine. If you drive a four-cylinder 718 (maybe try one as a courtesy car) you will appreciate what a difference it makes to the character.

    Porsche is understandably rather shy to talk openly about future models, as they prefer customers to focus on buying cars from the existing range.

    The traditional approach of Porsche's sales strategy is to offer the more exciting models later in the product cycle of a given range.

    There will be another Cayman GT4, but we need to be a little patient...

    ...and after the next generation GT3 and GT3 RS, there may even be room in the product line for a GT4 RS!

    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    I don't think the question is "will there be another GT4", but rather "how will the next GT4 be".


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Paddle shifts are missing, what can one expect ?  5-spd tiptronic  broken heart they really need to grow up


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Er, prove for manual that is, just as in case of the 911R mules, no? 🤔


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    The 3.8L N/A Carrera S should live on in the GT4. Make it PDK but offer the same car manual and call it GT4 RS 
    Later on bring out a super special limited edition GT4 RS 4.0 (with GT3 engine) I will buy this smiley


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    Atzporsche:

    Later on bring out a super special limited edition GT4 RS 4.0 (with GT3 engine) I will buy this smiley

    I think you'll likely need to do this in the aftermarket if you want that...


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    Atzporsche: 

    ...a super special limited edition GT4 RS 4.0 (with GT3 engine) I will buy this smiley

    I would buy that too Smiley


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Whoopsy:

    And the answer is that that may not be another GT4 for a while...........

    Porsche don't have another engine NA engine right now outside of the new 4.0L,

    So,what they will put in the .2RS?


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Did we have these here already?











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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Rossi:
    Did we have these here already?

    Yes, somewhere. Probably posted OT in an Audi thread or similar Smiley 


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Lukas:
    Rossi:

    Did we have these here already?


    Yes, somewhere. Probably posted OT in an Audi thread or similar Smiley 




    Ah, sorry, wanted to post them in the Lusso thread. Smiley



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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Stefan,

    It was posted around 2 months ago.


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    KresoF1:

    Stefan,

    It was posted around 2 months ago.


    I see, Kreso, I guess I'm not that much of a Porsche GT guy, GT4 excluded of course. Smiley


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    bluelines:
    Wow! 😮 Revolutionary! 😂😴💤

    Well, they are going to be very nice and fast cars. 

    Also, for the very first time, a fully optioned Carrera GTS top model could hit the 200k EUR barrier. Smiley Smiley 

     


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    RC:

    Also, for the very first time, a fully optioned Carrera GTS top model could hit the 200k EUR barrier. Smiley Smiley 

     

    Smiley I guess you can't really blame them if they can get away with such an overinflated pricetag, but what amazes me is that they can get away with it... there needs to be more competition guess...


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Carlos from Spain:
    RC:

    Also, for the very first time, a fully optioned Carrera GTS top model could hit the 200k EUR barrier. Smiley Smiley 

     

    Smiley I guess you can't really blame them if they can get away with such an overinflated pricetag, but what amazes me is that they can get away with it... there needs to be more competition guess...

    Honestly, I don't get it. Smiley Maybe the current economic situation is a reason for that. Many wealthy people (I'm not talking about the super rich or wealthy car enthusiasts) don't know where to invest their money and/or they don't trust stocks, investments, real estate, etc., so they buy nice cars. Not necessarily always as an investment but just to enjoy life because they cannot get any returns (interest rates, etc.) anyway...at least this is what they think. In the end, I think that this price bubble will implode and it will also affect used car prices a lot at some point.


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Btw, watching situation on rennlist and pff...

    I do not get it.Smiley

    Some posters there are rather desperate and not even funny any more in thier stubborn claims.

    Video of the alleged 991.2 GT3 is actually a video made in 2012 of 991.1 GT3 mules.

    Pic here is actually from rennlist...

     


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    That pic Is from spain, néxt to Barcelona i would say


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Enzo II:

    That pic Is from spain, néxt to Barcelona i would say





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    fritz:
    Enzo II:

    That pic Is from spain, néxt to Barcelona i would say

    You recognise the cactus plant?

    Smiley


    The green sign in the background has a Barcelona phone number on it, and the watermark belongs to a catalan car related site Smiley
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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    New 911 GT3 Cup from Paris...


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed

    Well there's our 991.2 GT3 bumper, looks great!


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