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    Difficult choice

    Hi, I'm a proud Boxster S owner but I really would like to upgrade to a 997 and therefore I've been lurking this board for a while and now's the time to start asking for your help.
    My dream car would be a 997s cabrio but it is really out of my budget. Stretching it to the limit I could get a 997 cabrio or a 997s coupé. Would you care telling me what would you do in my place? Thanks a lot.

    Ciao

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    Try to get a second hand Cabro S...
    Amazing picture

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    I too had 986 2.7 before trading up to 911. I test drove both 3.6 and 3.8, not a big difference but ended up with the "S", mainly due to extras like xenons, bigger brakes and would you believe, the sports steering wheel, but I like the better torque in the "S". After 4 months of ownership and 4500kms, loving it with absolutely no regrets. Test drive both and find out for yourself. Personally did not miss the top down too much... and there would probably the performance difference to take into account between a 3.6cab and a 3.8 coupe. Me, I'll take the faster coupe anytime.

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    Lupo.
    Welcome to the board!
    I also come from a 986S.
    Had the same question and with my wife we have chosen the 997S coupe WITH a sunroof.
    I myself do not like the 911 cabrios. Cabrios = boxster for me.
    Have you considered the new 3.4 987S? shall be a nice upgrade from your S?

    Good luck, you can't make a bad choice anyway :-)

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    Welcome on board.

    I'd recommend the C2S coupe given all the additional options. Besides, a 10% increase in power is really worth it.

    Don't forget that the Cayman S will eventually get a power bump, making the plain Carrera uncomfortable.

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    Hi - welcome to Rennteam!

    Very nice photo of your 986S.

    First issue - when you trade up to a 997 C2 Cab or 997 C2S coupe, will it be new or used?

    If new, then why not consider a used 997C2S Cab instead (provided that is still in your budget)?

    If used, then how old? Maybe, just maybe, you can find a 997C2S Cab in your budget.

    If not, then I would definitely go for a 997C2S Coupe (new or used). I have never seen a 997 C2 Cab or a 997 C4 cab on the roads in London. The only cabs I see are 997 C4S Cab and 997 C2S Cab. (I see about 8-12 Porsches each day just walking to/from work). Basically, if it's a choice between having the bigger engine or a cab, go for the bigger engine IMHO.

    Remember the Cab is a different experience. On the negative side, there is: softer PASM settings and no possibility of -20mm sports suspension with rear LSD. On the plus side, you are open to the sky. You can hear the exhaust sound better. For some people, these last two factors outweigh everything. You are changing from a convertible too. Can you adjust to a coupe? Will you regret it? Or will you be happy? Why not just wait a few months till you CAN afford the 997S Cab which you really want?

    Good luck with your decision!!

    Like someone said to me when I was ordering: "Enjoy the agony!" At the end of the day, you are getting a PORSCHE!!

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    hey! i had a similar dillema and went for the CaymanS. very happy, but if you insist on gettng a 911, save up and get a second hand S.

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    Lupo said:

    My dream car would be a 997s cabrio but it is really out of my budget. Stretching it to the limit I could get a 997 cabrio or a 997s coupé.



    Welcome on board! I'd say if the 997S cab is your dream car, save up (I guess the price difference to a 997 cab or a 997S coupé is "only" 10k Euro or so for a new car).
    As you know from your 986S experience a Porsche is not a simple tool for transportation - it's a heart's thing
    So go with your heart (even if you have to postpone the "wedding"). Years ago I faced a similar situation and l went for the "reasonable" compromise, because I have been too impatient to wait any longer I wouldn't do it again

    BTW the pic is just stunning Did you take it in the Dolomiti mountains ?

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    From a styling standpoint, the coupe wins the beauty contest, hands down, IMHO. The shape of the roof, the 1/4 windows, and the way it blends and flows into the flares, is almost as beautiful and perfectly sculpted as a woman's figure. It's absolutely integral to the styling of the car, and it's the primary design from which all other variations are hacked up and altered. With the cab, you lose the top half of the car that is so iconically "911". I know I'll get some grouchy responses to this from cab lovers, but it's just my opinion, so there's no need to fret.

    But, you can't drive with the top down in a coupe. So, you're just going to get a bunch of personal opinions that really won't mean squat, including mine. Are you willing to sacrifice style for wind and sunshine? Or will a sunroof suffice, and your "vision" of owning a 911 that you've had ever since you were a youngster, was always a vision of a classic 911 coupe?

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    Well I went through the same thing (997S vs 997 Cab). I ended up with the 997 Cab and glad I made the choice. Yes the 997 has a "smaller" engine but to me that isn't that big of an issue. I don't have to be the biggest on the block. Now being able to drop the top on my 997 is priceless. I just can't see myself owning a hardtop Porsche. Now this is just me and I sure others will beg to differ.

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    69bossnine said:
    The shape of the roof, the 1/4 windows, and the way it blends and flows into the flares, is almost as beautiful and perfectly sculpted as a woman's figure.



    A 997 Couple being "almost as beautiful and perfectly sculpted as a woman's figure". Sorry but 997 is not that nice.

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    bstew said:
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    69bossnine said:
    The shape of the roof, the 1/4 windows, and the way it blends and flows into the flares, is almost as beautiful and perfectly sculpted as a woman's figure.



    A 997 Couple being "almost as beautiful and perfectly sculpted as a woman's figure". Sorry but 997 is not that nice.



    Your opinion... Hence your reduced concern in lopping the roof off and replacing it with a toupe' to gain other benefits.

    There's no right or wrong here, just priorities and personal taste.

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    It's personal taste !

    Nice pic, I guess it's the Casse Déserte on the Col d'Izoard in France ? (been there a lot of times.... by bicycle)

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    Yes, it's on the "route des grandes alpes" (www.routedesgrandesalpes.com). I strongly recommend it for a great long weekend, especially with a cab!
    As far as my Porsche upgrade is concerned, I'll probably try and stay away from the Porsche dealer and wait for a few months to get a 997 C2S Cab. If the urge is irresistible I'll go with a 997 C2S. But at least we ruled out the 997 C2.....
    By the way, thank you very much for your thoughts. I'll continue to read your posts and learn more on the 997 also if I wouldn't be able to contribute much without a direct experience (I still have ppbb.com for that...)

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    Lupo:

    Three weeks ago took delivery of my 997S Cab, and traded my 99 986 (2.5L/201hp). A coupe was never an option for me, a sports car needs to be open to get full enjoyment from the drive, the sound, the smells, the wind. Even though I live in the northeast US and can only use it half the year.

    I test drove the 987S, the 997 and 997S. I didn't drive the 3.4l/295 HP 987S, as it wasn't even announced yet when I placed by order. The difference in feel between the 987 and the 997 is significant - the weight and the solid feeling on the ground won me over. I went with the S just - because!. When someone asked why I needed it, the answer was: "need" and "Porsche" don't go together.

    As others have said, this is all around personal preference - there is no right or wrong. In fact, there is no wrong - they are all great cars.

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    See - you KNOW the answer already....you're going to wait until you get the 997 C2S Cab you've been drooling over.

    No point splitting hairs over what, for you, are 'compromises'. Let's face it, at the end of the day, we all work hard to earn enough dosh to buy the little luxuries that make life special. This is your little indulgence. You might as well do it properly! I think a Porsche should always be chosen with the heart and not with the head!

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    One thing's for sure.... When you're plunking down that much hard-earned money, especially if it's a bit of a stretch... that's all the MORE reason that you want to get it the way you want it.

    It's one hell of a quandary, when you're contemplating settling for less because you're not comfortable paying for more... But at $80K median, and another $10 grand one way or the other, you damn well better see to it that you drive off the lot with what you WANT, and not blow $70K+ on a compromise with 4-wheels.

    When it comes to a certain type of car, I've always been of the mind "I'm going to get it the way that suits me... or I'm not getting it at all". Sometimes that means waiting, but it's always worth the wait. Best of luck, whatever you choose!!!!

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    Targa?

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    vtach88 said:
    Targa?



    Could be the best of both worlds....

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    Your opinion... Hence your reduced concern in lopping the roof off and replacing it with a toupe' to gain other benefits.

    There's no right or wrong here, just priorities and personal taste.



    I agree it is all personal taste. Can you explain what other benefits you are talking about? I just want to make sure I am getting the full effect of my Cab.

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    Just to add to your confusion, how about a 2001 or 2002 996TT?

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    FSU-997TT said:
    Just to add to your confusion, how about a 2001 or 2002 996TT?



    Wow now that does add some confusion. I would also add that I would look for a 2005 997S Cab. I'm sure they are out there.

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    I used to have a boxter S when I lived in California. Then I had a 99 996 C4 Coupe and now I have a 07 C4 Cab. If I were in your position I'd get a 05 997 C2 Cab or an 05 997 C2S Cab. Certified with the extra 2 year. If you shop around you'll get an amazing deal, and since you live in Sunny Italy, I'm telling you, you will LOVE putting the top down. The S Coupe is faster than the non-S Cab, no argument. But the Cab, with the top down, will "feel" much faster cause the wind is in your face. And you'll be traveling in open air, as you do in your Boxters S, while most folks are in a box.

    All that said, the lines on the Coupe are more flowing than on the Cab.

     
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