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    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    SciFrog:
    Mike S:
    I'm getting lost with all these new models coming out. There is just so much choice out there compared to even just two years ago.

            +1

     

    Audi is on a rampage. Every Audi car feels outdated the day it comes out. 


           Is there any car maker for you besides Aston Martin and Ferrari? NO?  


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    The cat is out of the bag, at least official teaser shots. I guess the specs will be released closer to Geneva:

    http://www.netcarshow.com/audi/2010-tt_rs/

    Audi-TT_RS_2010_1280x960_wallpaper_01.jpg

    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    SciFrog:
    Mike S:
    I'm getting lost with all these new models coming out. There is just so much choice out there compared to even just two years ago.

            +1

     

    Audi is on a rampage. Every Audi car feels outdated the day it comes out. 


            Last year, when I was invited to the factory, they told us the objectif of Audi is to be in front of BMW, Mercedes in all segments . That means lots of new models !!!


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    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    I have heard and read a lot of bad things about the TT's handling, can this version be better?

    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    Interesting... Since IMHO normal TT 2.0TFSI is the best FWD car on the market. And TTS with 272ps and Haldex AWD is faster on the Hockenheim then BMW 335i Coupe with DKG for example. With sport tires and little tuning small TTS is faster around Hockenheim then many cars in 997 Turbo class-just read great article about it in one of previous issues of Sport Auto.

    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    Eunice:
    I have heard and read a lot of bad things about the TT's handling, can this version be better?

    The biggest problems with handling had TT in first year, I think MY2000 was improved..  I had TT Mk1 and Mk2. Old one had KW V2 suspension (it was my2001), handling wasn't perfect, but it was quite good ... New one had stock suspension, but handling was much better.

     New TT RS... I don't like rear wing, but everything else is great. Can't wait to try one...


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    Eunice:
    I have heard and read a lot of bad things about the TT's handling, can this version be better?

            The TT is a fantastic car. It's miles ahead of Porsche in terms of "everyday livability", i.e. interior quality, fonction, quality of available equipment, how refined the car feels. It's S-tronic twin-clutch 'box is superb.

    Obviously, Porsche cars retain a dynamic advantage. But the base 200hp tfsi TT is a real belter and the TTS is even better.

     I'm expecting a lot from the TT RS. It may well add true Porsche-rivalling dynamics to the extremely high standard of quality and design that it will share with the rest of the TT range.



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    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    SciFrog:
    Mike S:
    I'm getting lost with all these new models coming out. There is just so much choice out there compared to even just two years ago.

            +1

    Audi is on a rampage. Every Audi car feels outdated the day it comes out. 


            That's why it's good to be a Porsche fan. Wait every 4-5 long product cycle years for 10 more hp, sl updated  front and rear fascia  ..voila .... the eagerly awaited  " facelift " !!

    Smiley

    Smiley



    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    REALZEUS:
    Autocar says 4.5 to the 60 but I find that rather optimistic... a figure closer to 5 dead is more likely as the TT-S (with allegedly 68 PS less) has been clocked in the high 5s. It's going to be a pocket rocket though.
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    FERRARI RULES!!!

            TTS with S-Tronic (DSG) is 5,2 sec to 100 Km/h; around 5,0-5,1 sec to 60 Mph. This is the official times.

    But journalist (Chris Harris) predicts high 4 sec. for 0-60 mph since 2.0TFSİ TTs are faster than offcial announced times.


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    andrea:
    KresoF1:
    Just one problem-Cayman S PDK is with same equipment at least 20K € more expensive then TT RS in Germany...

            so €60.000 for tt-rs?


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    Dedi La vita è troppo corta per non guidare italiano.....

            My TTS with S-Tronic, leather Recaro buckets, PDC, extra leather, and some small extras such as USB, LED interior light pack, extra leather here and there, folding and auto dimming mirrors has 43K euro list price in Germany (without tax !!)

    A well speced Cayman S PDK (full leather, Xenons, Navi, LSD, GT2 bucket seats, PDC and some extras) has a list price of around 68K euro in Germany (again without tax !!)


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    elsiesvg:
    ................. how refined the car feels.

    Are we still on the sportscar board here? Smiley


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    fritz

    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    pride355:
    REALZEUS:
    Autocar says 4.5 to the 60 but I find that rather optimistic... a figure closer to 5 dead is more likely as the TT-S (with allegedly 68 PS less) has been clocked in the high 5s. It's going to be a pocket rocket though.
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    FERRARI RULES!!!

            TTS with S-Tronic (DSG) is 5,2 sec to 100 Km/h; around 5,0-5,1 sec to 60 Mph. This is the official times.

    But journalist (Chris Harris) predicts high 4 sec. for 0-60 mph since 2.0TFSİ TTs are faster than offcial announced times.


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril

     

    The best clocked 0-100 km/h time I have seen for  the TTS is 5.7s with the S-tronic transmision. We will have to wait fro the TT-RS but I predict around 5 or just a fraction under that.


            


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    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

     KresoF1:
    ...   TTS with 272ps and Haldex AWD is faster on the Hockenheim then BMW 335i Coupe with DKG for example. With sport tires and little tuning small TTS is faster around Hockenheim then many cars in 997 Turbo class-just read great article about it in one of previous issues of Sport Auto.

            Here is that orginal article in German:

    http://www.sportauto-online.de/test_U_technik/tune-up/hxcms_article_517157_14469.hbs

            And here is its English version:

    http://forums.finalgear.com/general-automotive/sport-auto-tuning-special-audi-tts-32849/    SmileySmiley


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    And here are some Hockenheim short circuit times for TTS:

    http://www.tt-talk.com/index.php?showtopic=4014&hl=hockenheim


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    Here is another link to TTS comparison on a race track up against some high power sports car:

    http://www.tt-talk.com/index.php?showtopic=4362&hl=performance+figures


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    REALZEUS:
    pride355:
    REALZEUS:
    Autocar says 4.5 to the 60 but I find that rather optimistic... a figure closer to 5 dead is more likely as the TT-S (with allegedly 68 PS less) has been clocked in the high 5s. It's going to be a pocket rocket though.
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    FERRARI RULES!!!

            TTS with S-Tronic (DSG) is 5,2 sec to 100 Km/h; around 5,0-5,1 sec to 60 Mph. This is the official times.

    But journalist (Chris Harris) predicts high 4 sec. for 0-60 mph since 2.0TFSİ TTs are faster than offcial announced times.


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril

     

    The best clocked 0-100 km/h time I have seen for  the TTS is 5.7s with the S-tronic transmision. We will have to wait fro the TT-RS but I predict around 5 or just a fraction under that.


            


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    FERRARI RULES!!!

            Maybe journalists don't know how to use launch control wit DSG.

    Here is a vid. showing a launch control of a TTS with DSG:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pn0-NYuwpk

     

    And here is the link to whole thread which claims low 5 sec. with a passanger in the car:

    http://www.tt-talk.com/index.php?showtopic=3796&hl=performance+figures


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    fritz:
    elsiesvg:
    ................. how refined the car feels.

    Are we still on the sportscar board here? Smiley

     

     

     


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    fritz

     

    Smiley You are right; by Rennteam standarts, TTS is not a sportscar but TT-RS will be a serious threat to some more expensive and exclusive Sportscars; believe me Smiley

            


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    Eunice:
    I have heard and read a lot of bad things about the TT's handling, can this version be better?

    Actually, TTS has very good handling characteristics. Its HALDEX 4th genaration reacts very fast and the car oversteers on throttle. Its quattro system is different than R8s, so it doesn't drive like a rear wheel drive car.

    However, evenif I haven't used to my new TTS fully, I can drive it around the corners as fast as my ex-911 Carrera S. (I must mention that I prefer rear wheel drive cars oversteer tendancy and have been driving M3s and a Carrera S for the last 10 years) 

    Only problem with TTS is that it doesn't have LSD and you cannot fully turn off the ESP. After some oversteer angle the ESP cuts is as well as when you brake or when you lift of the throttle.

    However, car feels neutral rather than understeer tendancy.

    And the above links that I have posted, prove what I claim here.

    I'm just curious if the TT-RS has LSD with its 4WD system..

            


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    pride355:

    I'm just curious if the TT-RS has LSD with its 4WD system..


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril

    Since the TT-RS uses as you said a Haldex 4wd system, so it won't get the sport differential from the new S4. But Haldex has a similar LSD that premiered on the Saab XWD, and Saab had exclusivity on that system for a while. But if that period is now over.....then I'll be very surprised if it isn't included on the RS.


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    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    temm:
    pride355:

    I'm just curious if the TT-RS has LSD with its 4WD system..


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril

    Since the TT-RS uses as you said a Haldex 4wd system, so it won't get the sport differential from the new S4. But Haldex has a similar LSD that premiered on the Saab XWD, and Saab had exclusivity on that system for a while. But if that period is now over.....then I'll be very surprised if it isn't included on the RS.


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    10 PRINT "Increase engine by 200 ccm"

    20 PRINT "Increase hp by 20"

    30 PRINT "Change lights and mirrors"

    40 GOTO 10, every 3-4 years

    50 RUN

    tt-rs has latest haldex AWD


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    Dedi La vita è troppo corta per non guidare italiano.....

    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    I do not think so...

    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    TTS has 4th Genaration Haldex AWD and it doesn't have LSD.

    However, Quaife (can't remember how to spell) has LSD for TTS and HPA motorsport has haldex controller unit which has 3 modes (normal-sport-race). With this controller you can adjust the amount of power to send to rear wheels.


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    TT RS has normal Haldex, NOT XWD as in latest Saab models. Rumor about XWD in TT RS is not true.

    Another definitive confirmation-TT RS will be ONLY manual.


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    pride355:

    But journalist (Chris Harris) predicts high 4 sec. for 0-60 mph since 2.0TFSİ TTs are faster than offcial announced times.



            Where did Harris predict this? Who is he working for nowadays?


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    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    elsiesvg:
    pride355:

    But journalist (Chris Harris) predicts high 4 sec. for 0-60 mph since 2.0TFSİ TTs are faster than offcial announced times.



            Where did Harris predict this? Who is he working for nowadays?


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    996 C2, Audi TT tfsi 200 Roadster, VW Golf V GTi

            Seat of the pants maybe :) Or from his previous experiences with 2.0TFSİ TTs'.

    You may check this from his "TTS First Drive" video on drivers republic:

    http://www.drivers-republic.com/dr_tv/index.cfm?videoid=78a4ef55790d4d57bd20c5940dfe1da7&area=videos

     


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    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4RB-twB-PQ

    I love the sound of that 5 cylinder. You can tell it's half of a Gallardo engine. 


    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    KresoF1:

    TT RS has normal Haldex, NOT XWD as in latest Saab models. Rumor about XWD in TT RS is not true.

    Another definitive confirmation-TT RS will be ONLY manual.


            that's a pity...


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    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    pride355:
    fritz:
    elsiesvg:
    ................. how refined the car feels.

    Are we still on the sportscar board here? Smiley


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    fritz

    Smiley You are right; by Rennteam standarts, TTS is not a sportscar but TT-RS will be a serious threat to some more expensive and exclusive Sportscars; believe me Smiley


    ONUR

    09 Audi TTS Ibis / 07 CARRERA S Meteor / 05 M3Coupe SilverGrau / 03 M3Coupe Bluewater / 96 M3Coupe EVO Estoril

    I didn't make my point clearly enough. Smiley

    I didn't intend to question whether the TT-RS is really a sports car.

    My point was to question whether "refined feel"  -  obviously referring to "comfort" rather  than control or handling feel  -  has such a high priority in a sports car. Smiley



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    Re: AUDI TT RS teaser shots

    Fantastic sound Smiley  Better then the standart exaust on my Carrera Smiley

    That little car will be VERY interesting....... exept for the ugly back  wing


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