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    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

    Wow , when did they introduce the regular XKR ? Not long ago at all. And already a improved car is out.
    Anyway , I like it , beautiful car like all new XK's.

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

    Given how broke Jaguar is, I'm amazed they have the money to do this. What are sales of the XK8 and XKR like? How soon before Ford have to sell it off?

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

    According to latest news Ford do not even plan to sell Jaguar...

    BTW, I like this XKR Portfolio more then new Maser...

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

    Yes, I know they have no current plans but, Ford is in desperate, desperate trouble. It's just a question of time before they have to revisit this decision and start selling off assets. Ford's long term survival is in doubt.

    I like the XKR though. It's a nice car. Somehow, there's something missing though. A certain 'x' factor. The XK8/XKR doesn't seem wild enough.

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

    I agree. I like this Portfolio version a lot. Did you see the brakes? 400mm(6calipers) Alcon grooved fronts + 350mm(4calipers) Alcon grooved rears... At least this Jag will have excellent brake power...

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

    Jag(Ford) could not be more blatant. It is a dressed down db9 that they are trying to milk every dime from. It works because it is a beautiful design.

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

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    racerx said:
    Jag(Ford) could not be more blatant. It is a dressed down db9 that they are trying to milk every dime from. It works because it is a beautiful design.



    Well the designer of the XKR was the lead designer at Aston before this. Don't be so harsh, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

    I just think they got the headlamps wrong though. Too much resemblence with Hyundai there!

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

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    bondmid003 said:
    Quote:
    racerx said:
    Jag(Ford) could not be more blatant. It is a dressed down db9 that they are trying to milk every dime from. It works because it is a beautiful design.



    Don't be so harsh, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery



    How does "it is a beautiful design" = "being "harsh"

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

    I think by "harsh" he meant that, although you think it is a beautiful design, you include what could be construed as a veiled criticism that it is a blatant copy of the AM DB9 by Jaguar. However, the most positive interpretation of such copying would be that it is flattering.

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

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    easy_rider911 said:
    I think by "harsh" he meant that, although you think it is a beautiful design, you include what could be construed as a veiled criticism that it is a blatant copy of the AM DB9 by Jaguar. However, the most positive interpretation of such copying would be that it is flattering.



    Easyrider got exactly what I was trying to say

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

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    KresoF1 said:
    BTW, I like this XKR Portfolio more then new Maser...



    I need to see the Maserati in real but at the moment I agree, prefer the Jag. Although close to Aston it has enough presence and individuality to be a car I would really consider buying. And I like the headlights

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

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    bondmid003 said:
    Quote:
    easy_rider911 said:
    I think by "harsh" he meant that, although you think it is a beautiful design, you include what could be construed as a veiled criticism that it is a blatant copy of the AM DB9 by Jaguar. However, the most positive interpretation of such copying would be that it is flattering.



    Easyrider got exactly what I was trying to say



    That's not harsh just the real world truth. Jag like the rest of Ford is hard up for sales and lacking hot design's. AM has the best looking line-up bar none, but how many DB 9's will get sold at that price.

    So the bean counters at Ford said take the good design and spread it thin over the jag chassis to generate some interest and money. To my eyes it is almost a clone.

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

    I'm sorry you don't like it as much brother, I sure do. Even though for the price tag I'd expect a little bit better performance and a genuine manual gearbox...no offense but I hate manumatics

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

    baby aston

    Re: Jaguar XKR Portfolio

    I have to say that I'm a little surprised at how people consider the XK8/XKR to be a baby Aston V8 Vantage.

    I think any resemblence there may be is under the skin e.g. the Aston has a 4.3L V8 whereas the Jag has a 4.2L V8.

    I think the exterior and interior designs look really quite different. In fact, different enough for this criticism not to be justified IMHO.

    I think, for comparison purposes, if you took the Aston Martin DB7 and the previous Jag XK8 and placed them side by side, you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart The 'Ford family resemblence' criticism was totally justified and true then IMO.

     
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