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    C4S vs. C2S: Weight Difference?

    Does anyone have an exact figure for the weight difference between the 997 C2S and the C4S?

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    The only thing I know is that the AWD system is nearly the same as on the 996. They have tried to gain some weight on some of the parts but I don' t know how much.
    I would also like to know exactly how heavyer it is..

    Re: C4S vs. C2S: Weight Difference?

    50 kg

    AM

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    mumbasic said:
    50 kg

    AM



    For sure? Only 50kg for the AWD + larger back?

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    only 50kg?!?!?!

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    55Kg minimum, that includes just the AWD system.
    But it does not include any added weight that may derive from a posible wider track since its 44mm wider, and the larger tires/wheels, or any other change. So 55kg is the minimum weight gain to expect.
    The 9967C4S ended up 100kg heavier than the 996C2 since they also added widebody, brakes, etc.

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    Carlos from Spain said:
    55Kg minimum, that includes just the AWD system.
    But it does not include any added weight that may derive from a posible wider track since its 44mm wider, and the larger tires/wheels, or any other change. So 55kg is the minimum weight gain to expect.
    The 9967C4S ended up 100kg heavier than the 996C2 since they also added widebody, brakes, etc.



    You are right the 997 C2 is 1420 kg and the 997 C4S is 1475 kg. The AWD 50 kg and the 44 mm + 300mm tires 5 kg. This information is from AMS from 06/08/05.

    AM

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    Thanks for the confirmation. I remember when the 996C2 was 1320Kg and the 996C4 was 1375Kg, that was back in 1999 when the 996 was introduced. Now its 6 years later... and 100kg heavier

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    Carlos from Spain said:
    Thanks for the confirmation. I remember when the 996C2 was 1320Kg and the 996C4 was 1375Kg, that was back in 1999 when the 996 was introduced. Now its 6 years later... and 100kg heavier



    I remember 20 years ago as a student I had only 70 kg now 20 years later I have 20 kg more

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    mumbasic said:
    Quote:
    Carlos from Spain said:
    55Kg minimum, that includes just the AWD system.
    But it does not include any added weight that may derive from a posible wider track since its 44mm wider, and the larger tires/wheels, or any other change. So 55kg is the minimum weight gain to expect.
    The 9967C4S ended up 100kg heavier than the 996C2 since they also added widebody, brakes, etc.



    You are right the 997 C2 is 1420 kg and the 997 C4S is 1475 kg. The AWD 50 kg and the 44 mm + 300mm tires 5 kg. This information is from AMS from 06/08/05.

    AM



    So they have lightened the whole system! GREAT!
    The difference between the C4S and C2S is now quite acceptable !!!!
    But of course the cars keep on getting heavyer... thanks to bigger engines, bigger cars...and our confort!

    If you want light, go for a Lotus Exige...but not much confort!

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    gnil said:
    So they have lightened the whole system! GREAT!
    The difference between the C4S and C2S is now quite acceptable !!!!



    Its actually the same still, the 996 C4 had also some chasis reinforcements compared to the C2 and the 997 chasis probably doesn't need that so it compensates for the bigger tires and wioder 44mm added weight of the 997 C4, so in the end they are both 55kg heavier that their RWD counterparts.

    The problem is that even though 55kg may not seem much, in the MY99 996 is was on top of only 1320Kg, but now in the 997C4S its 55Kg on top of an already 1420Kg of the C2S, so its getting ridiculously heavy for a carrera.

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    No wonder why people are still in love with the 2.7l RS despite its relatively limited power (210hp if I remember correctly)

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    Does anyone know about the capacity of the trunk? Is it much smaller or does it have the same size? When I have a look to the following x-ray-pic then it doesn't seem to be much differnt tho trunk from the 2WD Carreras. What do you think?

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    If its like the 996, the trunk will be smaller because part of the AWD is placed there, thats why the weight distribution is different in the AWD.

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    Carlos from Spain said:
    Quote:
    gnil said:
    So they have lightened the whole system! GREAT!
    The difference between the C4S and C2S is now quite acceptable !!!!



    Its actually the same still, the 996 C4 had also some chasis reinforcements compared to the C2 and the 997 chasis probably doesn't need that so it compensates for the bigger tires and wioder 44mm added weight of the 997 C4, so in the end they are both 55kg heavier that their RWD counterparts.

    The problem is that even though 55kg may not seem much, in the MY99 996 is was on top of only 1320Kg, but now in the 997C4S its 55Kg on top of an already 1420Kg of the C2S, so its getting ridiculously heavy for a carrera.



    I am trying to convince myself... ... but thanks Carlos for the exact info. It is getting heavy..nearly as much as my super heavy Audi TT

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    Its a tough call gnil. My 997S with 1420Kg feels nimbler than my 1375Kg 996C4, but its probably due to the RWD and -20mm, but who knows, maybe the 997C4S may not feel as heavy as a 996C4S. Tough call to make any desition on the 997C4S if you are not sure, I would just wait till you get to try one

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    Carlos from Spain said:
    If its like the 996, the trunk will be smaller because part of the AWD is placed there, thats why the weight distribution is different in the AWD.



    That's what I also thought, before I saw this x-ray-pic. Now I'm not sure anymore... nobody can give me an answere and so I'll have to wait and have a look at it on the IAA in Frankfurt!

    Regards!

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    ..maybe I should go to the IAA....

     
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