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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Rossi:
    reginos:

    Why don't manufacturers install a ON-OFF switch for the ABS, like on certain motorcycles?


    The only car I know, which had that feature, was the Ferrari F355. ABS could be deactivated by a button in the centre console.

    Later on in the F355 life cycle this button was disabled by Ferrari.

    I looked it up and ABS systems are required on all new passenger cars sold in the EU since 2007. Therefore, a disabling switch seems to be illegal now in the EU, at least.

    In the USA, ABS is not mandatory, so manufacturers could in theory instal a deactivating switch but I presume they are scared of potential lawsuits.


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Rossi:

    The only car I know, which had that feature, was the Ferrari F355. ABS could be deactivated by a button in the centre console

    All the Audis in the early 80's had an ABS switch too


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs).  Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    ABS systems base their action on a set of algorithms and not on a single on-off layout. The rate and speed in which a single wheel locks up gives an indication about the coefficient of friction and the projected release of brake pressure. Certain conditions, such as very low friction surfaces (ice, gravel), cornering or different friction surfaces (µ-split), require dedicated algorithms. Due to the car´s required stability, the rear axle should always receive less brake pressure than the front, therefore indicated slip on the rear axle under braking can also cause the front axle to be affected in their braking performance.

    All this has to be adjusted for different tire compounds, different friction relations between tire and surface as well as surface undulations and suspension influences distorting the values the ABS system receives. Furthermore, the setup has to sustain the proper handling of the car and therefore remains limited as not to unsettle the car.

    I personally believe that ice mode shows up the limitations of the system and its layout as this street-intended device has to adapt to too many parameters and circumstances and (possibly) all that with a limited amount of calibration for these extreme situations. The problem is obviously solved by applying a motorsport-derived system which a. has assumedly more processing power and b. can be adjusted for the specific use and components and therefore less easily triggers hazardous procedures.


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Grant:
    Rossi:

    The only car I know, which had that feature, was the Ferrari F355. ABS could be deactivated by a button in the centre console

    All the Audis in the early 80's had an ABS switch too

    Mercedes G had it for some time as well


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Hello all,

    I'm new to th1334766206572photo (30).JPGis.  Was wondering how do I make this my profile picture?  Also, any tips on how to remove swirl marks cheeky?


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Nice wallpaper for RennTeamer's wink

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Sorry for off topic.....Enjoy! wink


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    What is the name of this blue??  It's amazing!!! it is my dream blue

     


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    2012 Cayenne TT (on order for june 2012), 997.1 Targa 4s, 2009 Q5 3.2

    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    That is Dark Blue Metallic. In person, it looks A LOT different (ugly). A color that looks more similar to that in person is Aqua Blue Metallic. It looks awesome in person.


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Looks more like Aqua Blue to me...


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs).  Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    this looks like artic silver not plat silver ???

    Is artic silver a PTS color on the 991 ?

    anyone have a picture of the two, side by side

    thank youSmiley


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Thanks. All the cars at the dealers are in standard white/grey/black colors... Boring


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    2012 Cayenne TT (on order for june 2012), 997.1 Targa 4s, 2009 Q5 3.2

    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Aqua Blue and Lime Gold have become my latest choices... It's quite surprising since I hated it at beginning.


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Anyone know how the new white varies from carrara white? 

     


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    From Russia with love)))IMG_8072.JPG


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    DIMI,

    All 3 are yours? I see what you did with the license plates: 650 ;)

    Are they parked by your office? :)


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    2012 Cayenne TT (on order for june 2012), 997.1 Targa 4s, 2009 Q5 3.2

    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Panamera is mine, cayenne is my wife`s car, and 991 is my father`s) Yes, that is our office parcking...

    That was nice to see them all together in one place!)


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Dimi, you are one cool family!! Lots of respect for sticking with Porsche and in the same color, similar license plates. Good job ;)


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    2012 Cayenne TT (on order for june 2012), 997.1 Targa 4s, 2009 Q5 3.2

    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Are they all the same colour - they look different to me...yes

     


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Almost same rims too, your dad ruined it smiley Cool shot!


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    DIMI:

    From Russia with love)))IMG_8072.JPG

    Welcome and thanks for sharing. Very nice car collection. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (June 2012 delivery), Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Finally saw my first 991, a cab, in the flesh today

    - Easly the best cab ever,  no more hunchback

    - The eyebrows / whiskers don't bother me as much in the real world as in photos

    - The interior doors...still strike me as way too complex

    - Love the slighly bug eyed looks of the headlights

     

    Still resisting buying one but it's not easy...I miss driving a porsche. 


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    picked up the car this last weekend:

    here is the build - Basalt on full black leather:

    603 - Porsche Dynamic Light System
    342 - Seat heating (front)
    276 - Automatically dimming mirrors
    P38 - Premium Package w 14-way seats
    322 - Power Sport seats (left)
    321 - Power Sport seats (right)
    P06 - Power Sport Seats (14-way)
    446 - Wheel caps color Porsche crest
    911 - Model Designation "911"
    345 - Steering wheel heating
    427 - 20-inch Carrera Classic wheel
    844 - Multi-function steering wheel
    ZSS - Auto Start Stop
    690 - SiriusXM(TM) & HD Radio tuners
    748 - Electric folding ext. mirrors
    682 - Burmester(R) Sound System
    658 - Power Steering Plus
    651 - Electric sunroof
    636 - ParkAssist (front and rear)
    630 - Light Design Package
    583 - Smoking package
    250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
    640 - Sport Chrono Package

     


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    2012 991 C2S -manual / 2010 997.2 turbo cab manual, sold / 2008 Cayenne GTS Manual /2008 RS 60 sold /04 C4S sold - 08 Cayenne Turbo PDCC sold


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    trying to work with the rear badging - took a notched S from my old 996 C4S

     

     


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    2012 991 C2S -manual / 2010 997.2 turbo cab manual, sold / 2008 Cayenne GTS Manual /2008 RS 60 sold /04 C4S sold - 08 Cayenne Turbo PDCC sold


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    CPA4S - congrats on the purchase! 

    I could not resist not to notice: you advocate Cayenne in manual, yet you take 911 in PDK? ;)

    are you keeping you 997.2 tt?


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    2012 Cayenne TT (on order for june 2012), 997.1 Targa 4s, 2009 Q5 3.2

    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    the manual makes the Cayenne more engaging for me whereas the 911 is already very connected. i wanted to try a PDK & this was a nice build that was on the lot so i thought it would be a great experiment car; finally it made the spouse happy: she has the opportunity to drive it at least.

    the Turbo is gone - it was a Europipe outlay or trade for this & my dealor gave me an absolutley killer deal on the turbo trade.


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    2012 991 C2S -PDK / 2010 997.2 turbo cab manual, sold / 2008 Cayenne GTS Manual /2008 RS 60 sold /04 C4S sold - 08 Cayenne Turbo PDCC sold


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    Many congrats on the new baby...  I love all of your spec' with the exception of the red 'S'  kiss

     


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991... (LAUNCH thread)

    I have no Idea of why I can't turn the picture - but I've been driven the new Cabi S today extensively

    Let me share some pros and cons ;

    Spec. basically fully loaded 991 S including 20' wheels costing a whopping 186k CHF.

    Pros:

    Full leather - looks very very well done and far better than in a 997

    interior : specially the feel of the buttons are way above a 997

    PCM, interior lay-out and all dials look and feel high-end

    Exhaust button : MUST HAVE - huge difference to normal mod and burbles almost AMG like - specially when you lift the throttle quickly - a huge step forward towards old systems

    Appearance : WOW - I am not a fan of red - but boy does a 991 look hot in red with black 20'

    Cabriolet-shape : a huge step forward 

    Wind-shield : with a touch of a button - clever and cool looking

    Cons : (I will get a lot of bashing for this indecision)

    PDK : first of all a big improvement in gear shift speed to Gen1 - but I absolutely hated it after 20 min..... First you go 1-2-3-4 - and think wow - very fast very smooth - almost like a 458 - but better than a SLS for sure.....THEN it goes to sail-mode when you lift the throttle (downwards on a hilly road) and you think the engine has died - then you stop the car on a red light and the engine really goes out.....mail - so you push the Sport button or SportPlus to prevent this happening again as it freaks you out....although it starts fast again.

    Now having solved that issue - you continue in SportMode (!) look at yr dial and cruising below 50 km/h (city limits) and already u are again in 4th or even higher....slightly more throttle and it shifts down a couple of gears (thank god it had SportExhaust so at least that sounded good) but 2 seconds later yr again in 5th or worse........

    Entering the highway it jumps gears like no tomorrow and after 6th - there is a huge drop in RPM in 7th.....very nervous I felt.

    so back to full Manual mode - NOW we're talking.....fast changing gears and a very nice wheel with great paddles. However, I catched myself doing the same as PDK constantly whipping some gears around......

    So : if you use yr car daily and you hit traffic all the time - go for PDK - if you drive it for FUN - get a manual....indecision

    Driving dynamics : I have not driven the coupe - but despite PASM the car felt like a california - heavy..... - I am surely no benchmark here with the GT3RS - but driving home with my RS it was like day and night. Guy's anybody who has not driven a RS - get you're hands on one and drive it on a twisty road.....it's mindbogglingly good ....

    Breaks : They felt mushy. I am sure they are not - but again no comparison to my car (weight ? yes)

    Engine : well....see driving dynamics. on the other hand the car had only 300 km so it surely hasn't loosed up but it does not at all feel like the numbers it produces in reality. a GTS feels faster......

     

    Bottomline : a beautiful beautiful car with a FANTASTIC quality interior - but if you're into Sportscars wait for a GT model or buy a GT2,GT3 etc. - however, I am sure it will find lots of buyers ! broken heart

     

     

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