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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    KresoF1:

    Macan will look good.Smiley

    BUT, I have some reservation...

    1. PDK-Why only double clutch gearbox in sporty suv? Any one who had a chance to drive latest 8 speed TIP knows that it is much, much better in slow driving and stop/go situation then PDK.

    2. Macan Turbo-Are very powerfull biturbo engine really key to success of mid size suv? If for the image then OK. Porsche need something else if they want to get costumers that are buying SQ5 or X3 3.5d today... IMHO.

    3. Price-Macan will be much, much more expensive in all versions then either Q5 or X3.

    @ 2. Very much agree with that. They need a 3.0 Diesel with 320 PS to compete with the cars you mentioned . Here in Europe the 3.0 petrol biturbo does not make sense.  Ar the moment the realistic chioce is between the relatively thirsty Turbo or the relatively weak Diesel...


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    turbolite


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    I may actually replace our Cayenne GTS with the Macan Turbo if the Macan holds enough cargo room for us.  My wife wants to get rid of her BMW X3 35d but the Cayenne is too big for her. The Macan Turbo S could be interesting too but I won't pay 120k EUR for a fully equipped Macan Turbo S, I am sorry. Not going to happen. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    Oh, according to provisional prices for Germany that I got you will have to pay close to 115K € for Macan Turbo with full options.


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    RC,   My wife will be ordering a Macan S next month. Base price for that in the US is $52K. I expect final configured price to be about $60K. This is pretty close to what I paid for my 2013 fully optioned Cayenne.  I will be interested in  what type of discount my dealer will be offering.


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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    KresoF1:

    Oh, according to provisional prices for Germany that I got you will have to pay close to 115K € for Macan Turbo with full options.

    I will get a pretty basic (only performance options and some minor other options) Macan Turbo...if I get one. Expected price tag after rebate: 90k EUR. Not a cent more. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    What does sticker price matter when you lease it??


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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    RC:

    I may actually replace our Cayenne GTS with the Macan Turbo ...

    I seem to recal something like "car budget gone for the next years" being said in the recent past. 

    You will never change Christian.  Smiley


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    Enmanuel:
    RC:

    I may actually replace our Cayenne GTS with the Macan Turbo ...

    I seem to recal something like "car budget gone for the next years" being said in the recent past. 

    You will never change Christian.  Smiley

    I should have added "when the Cayenne GTS lease runs out in two years".  The Cayenne GTS is our family car, I was referring to my fun car budget. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    So the Macan S will cost more than the base Cayenne ($57500 CAD)?

    The 3L V6 turbo in Panamera S and 4S already produces 420bhp and 520Nm of torque. Isn't it strange for Porsche to put a 3.6L turbo into the Macan turbo with less power?


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    So the Macan S will cost more than the base Cayenne ($57500 CAD)?
     
    The 3L V6 turbo in Panamera S and 4S already produces 420bhp and 520Nm of torque. Isn't it strange for Porsche to put a 3.6L turbo into the Macan turbo with less power?
     
    I guess they can charge more if it is a 3.6! but indeed you wouldnt need the additional displacement to reach those power and torque figure...Smiley

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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    RC:
    KresoF1:

    Oh, according to provisional prices for Germany that I got you will have to pay close to 115K € for Macan Turbo with full options.

    I will get a pretty basic (only performance options and some minor other options) Macan Turbo...if I get one. Expected price tag after rebate: 90k EUR. Not a cent more. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)

    My additions would just be: panoramic roof, Adaptive speed control, Navigation, keyless access, garage door opener, maybe Sport Chrono.

    Guess that's it...Smiley


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    turbolite


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    turbolite:
    RC:
    KresoF1:

    Oh, according to provisional prices for Germany that I got you will have to pay close to 115K € for Macan Turbo with full options.

    I will get a pretty basic (only performance options and some minor other options) Macan Turbo...if I get one. Expected price tag after rebate: 90k EUR. Not a cent more. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)

    My additions would just be: panoramic roof, Adaptive speed control, Navigation, keyless access, garage door opener, maybe Sport Chrono.

    Guess that's it...Smiley

    That will be 10k Smiley


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    The new Porsche Macan: Intelligent Performance...

    The new Porsche Macan: Intelligent Performance -- Video Link

    Smiley SmileySmiley


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    "Teaser" for the Macan is now up on the Porsche UK website.....


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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    Good News for Dieselfans! 

    According to Autozeitung the Diesel version wil have 285 PS! 

    This means that with some weightsavings it will have the same straight line performance of an x35d or Sq5...

    kiss


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    turbolite


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    turbolite:

    Good News for Dieselfans! 

    According to Autozeitung the Diesel version wil have 285 PS! 

    This means that with some weightsavings it will have the same straight line performance of an x35d or Sq5...

    kiss

    It's actually 258  Smiley  It's the 3.0 TDI V6 that's also used in the Q5. They could easily have typed that wrong 258 <-> 285.

    i think the Macan S diesel will get around 315-320hp (BiTurbo engine from the SQ5 with a little bit more hp)

     

    Edit: i see on several UK websites that Porsche has confirmed that the V6 diesel engine wil get 254 bhp which is 258 metric hp.

    http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/macan/66341/porsche-macan-2014-road

     

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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed


    It's actually 258  Smiley  It's the 3.0 TDI V6 that's also used in the Q5. They could easily have typed that wrong 258 <-> 285.

    i think the Macan S diesel will get around 315-320hp (BiTurbo engine from the SQ5 with a little bit more hp)

     

    Edit: i see on several UK websites that Porsche has confirmed that the V6 diesel engine wil get 254 bhp which is 258 metric hp.

    http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/macan/66341/porsche-macan-2014-road

     

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    Suzy

     

    You might be right unfortunately! and it would make more sense to leace enough space for the S version...Smiley


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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    Does anyone here have the ability to find out where they put the battery on the Macan?


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    Van-:

    Does anyone here have the ability to find out where they put the battery on the Macan?

    I think in the trunk but don't nail me on this one.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    I can't wait to see the final tail lights heartbroken heart

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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    I guess the look will be stunning with this wide rear body. Just not sure if the car ends up way to small for an SUV?


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    Lars997:

    I guess the look will be stunning with this wide rear body. Just not sure if the car ends up way to small for an SUV?

    In fact I was thinking today about what would be the real life alternatives/competitors for the Macan Turbo.

    I would argue that it would not be a another (mostly Diesel here in Europe) SUV like vehicle but rather some powerful  smaller station wagons. The first ones springing to my mind would be the Audi RS4 and the Alpina B3 (sw, awd).These are cars for someone who needs a small family car but wants sporty capabilities. Alternatively bigger station wagons could come to play like Audi S6 or even Rs6 (more expensive but u can buy used ones one year old which i guess would be on par pricewise with the Mac Turbo..).

    Given how many of these Audi RS4 we see here in Switzerland i believe the Mac Turbo will be a big success even before the more powerful Diesel variant comes out.. Smiley


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    turbolite


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    smiley

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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    Close? No? smiley


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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    I've been looking closely at the Macan design sketch Porsche released and some of the older articles posted and I'm confident that the Macan will in fact have the three-dimensional taillights previewed by the Panamera Sport Turismo. That means each lighting element will be angular and alternate between recessed and protruding.

    The rear definitely seems to be the biggest surprise. A leak needs to happen now!

    rulesdontapply


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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    rulesdontapply:

    I've been looking closely at the Macan design sketch Porsche released and some of the older articles posted and I'm confident that the Macan will in fact have the three-dimensional taillights previewed by the Panamera Sport Turismo. That means each lighting element will be angular and alternate between recessed and protruding.

    The rear definitely seems to be the biggest surprise. A leak needs to happen now!

    rulesdontapply


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    2008 Porsche Boxster S PDE2
    2012 Porsche Cayenne S

    If you look closely...this picture already gives away a lot. Smiley

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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    This one gives even more....

    porsche-macan-spyshots-0021.jpg


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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    I think if we look at Panamera Sport Turismo, we will actualy see a lower/longer Macan Turbo (front and rear shape)


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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    Sport Turismo into Macan Turbo (quick PS) smiley

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    Re: "Cajun" is now...MACAN Thread Closed

    SportCarGroup:

    This one gives even more....

    porsche-macan-spyshots-0021.jpg

    Indeed. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


     
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