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    Macan Hybrid

    Anyone who can share more intel about the most likely scenario for launch of Macan Hybrid give its been discussed by Porsche about 1-2 years ago? 

    Thanks in advance 


    Re: Macan Hybrid

    Macan911:

    Anyone who can share more intel about the most likely scenario for launch of Macan Hybrid give its been discussed by Porsche about 1-2 years ago? 

    Thanks in advance 

    2016 or latest 2017 as far as I heard... It seems to be still in the pipeline, so it is coming.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Macan Hybrid

    Many thanks RC.  Assume it will be based on the Macan S in terms of engine/power?


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    Macan911:

    Many thanks RC.  Assume it will be based on the Macan S in terms of engine/power?

    To be honest, I don't have a clue. I only heard that apparently it uses the same hybrid tech Audi will use for the "new"(?) Q5 Hybrid.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


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    Thanks.  Based on a quick google, I found this:

    "At the leading edge of the mpg scale, we should find the Q5 e-tron quattro ultra which is Audispeak for its latest plug-in hybrid. The PHEV model will pair a 252bhp/273lb ft 2.0-litre four with a 109bhp/221lb ft electric motor - same receipe as compiled by the BMW chefs for the next X3, but a little spicier overall. What price for a greener conscience? In both cases, analysts predict a PHEV premium of about €3500 (£3000)."

    http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/audi/audi-q5-2016-next-q5-goes-to-mexico-gets-tech-galore/

    Not exactly Mission-e tech :)


    Re: Macan Hybrid

    Did you really expect something formidable?  angry

    I'm not a fan of the hybrid models but I think they would sell well if the cars using the hybrid tech would have exceptional performance as well. I liked the Cayenne Hybrid (latest model) I had for two days. Give this puppy a monster (fuel) engine and the hybrid tech (e-mode for city driving for example) and I'm sold. Other than that, I am not interested. Sorry.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Macan Hybrid

    Don't diagree RC.  GTS with hybrid mode would be interesting


    Re: Macan Hybrid

    Hybrid is an obsolete technology even before it matures.


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    SciFrog:

    Hybrid is an obsolete technology even before it matures.

    I find it quite fascinating but only if done "right". The definition of right certainly doesn't include the Prius. LOL


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Macan Hybrid

    Hybrid might be interesting for the 918 because it adds torque at the low end, but since I haven't tried the car I will reserve judgement. But for more normal cars, it is IMHO useless vs a full electric option. The Cayenne and Panamera for example are much better in regular livery than hybrid.


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    SciFrog:

    Hybrid might be interesting for the 918 because it adds torque at the low end, but since I haven't tried the car I will reserve judgement. But for more normal cars, it is IMHO useless vs a full electric option. The Cayenne and Panamera for example are much better in regular livery than hybrid.

    I would just love to have a Cayenne Turbo S with hybrid mode for the city for example. Full monster power whenever I need it and relaxed e-power in the city. Wonderful. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Macan Hybrid

    Just drive the TTS without slamming the accelerator, it has plenty of torque and will give you that relaxed drive without the needed for anything else.


    Re: Macan Hybrid

    SciFrog:

    Just drive the TTS without slamming the accelerator, it has plenty of torque and will give you that relaxed drive without the needed for anything else.

    I suggest you drive a Cayenne Hybrid in e-mode through the city, pretty fun. Smiley Also, it reduces fuel consumption substantially.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Macan Hybrid

    I really don't see the point of pairing a hybrid system with a neutered drivetrain. Pointless.

    Pair the hybrid drivetrain with the highest performing engine, like the 918.

    You get great gas mileage when the engine is not on or even at low load, while the hybrid system supplement the drivetrain for performance. Killing 2 birds with one stone.

    I keep floating the idea to Porsche personal. Put the hybrid in the Cayenne Turbo S, it was a gas guzzler normally but with the hybrid's help, it will be acceptable, plus, the HP can jump from 570 to 600something. Same with the Panamera Turbo S and 911 Turbo S.


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    Whoopsy:

    I keep floating the idea to Porsche personal. Put the hybrid in the Cayenne Turbo S, it was a gas guzzler normally but with the hybrid's help, it will be acceptable, plus, the HP can jump from 570 to 600something. Same with the Panamera Turbo S and 911 Turbo S.

    Very good idea - but a very niche market I would have thought for the likes of you and me Smiley 


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    Whoopsy:

    I really don't see the point of pairing a hybrid system with a neutered drivetrain. Pointless.

    Pair the hybrid drivetrain with the highest performing engine, like the 918.

    You get great gas mileage when the engine is not on or even at low load, while the hybrid system supplement the drivetrain for performance. Killing 2 birds with one stone.

    I keep floating the idea to Porsche personal. Put the hybrid in the Cayenne Turbo S, it was a gas guzzler normally but with the hybrid's help, it will be acceptable, plus, the HP can jump from 570 to 600something. Same with the Panamera Turbo S and 911 Turbo S.

    Yessss... Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Macan Hybrid

    If Porsche management had ANY brain, they will do it.

    for economy brands like Toyota, hybrid stands for cheap ass cars.

    for real car brand with performance in their blood, hybrid means extra performance.


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    Re: Macan Hybrid

    It is the only sensible road.  I just don't see the sell otherwise for the premium hybrid price given Porsche = sports car


    Re: Macan Hybrid

    But not right now, they paired the hybrid with a neutered engine in the Cayenne and Panamera hybrid.

    and the fuel economy aspect is the one they talked aboutmail


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    Re: Macan Hybrid

    We can only hope the 911 hybrid will change this.  Clearly the Macan Hybrid is going to be the same cloth as the Cayenne/Panamera 


    Re: Macan Hybrid

    Whoopsy:

    But not right now, they paired the hybrid with a neutered engine in the Cayenne and Panamera hybrid.

    and the fuel economy aspect is the one they talked aboutmail

    The hybrid version of the Cayenne was originally a direct response to severe criticism of that "gas guzzling" model by greens, specifically by Greenpeace, IIRC. In that context, it absolutely made sense to pair the hybrid system with a more "moderate" version of the car in terms of power and fuel consumption, rather than positioning it as a further power enhancement for the high performance variants, which would only have served to intensify rather than blunt that criticism. 

    I suspect that if a worthwhile market was now seen for hybrid versions further up the range, then such a version would be developed and produced. It's not as if Porsche is backward about introducing ever more variants of existing models if they are deemed to be saleable.  


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