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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    Along with the Evora and the new 6 series?  Seems a bit harsh; an article to get people riled more than anything.

    While I'm not a fan of the California styling, I do appreciate that Ferrari has made each of their cars different (eg. the FF Smiley ).  That takes some design courage IMO, much more than the larger manufacturers  who are boring us with their Russian doll look-alikes (just pick the shrink factor...).


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    4trac:That takes some design courage IMO, much more than the larger manufacturers  who are boring us with their Russian doll look-alikes (just pick the shrink factor...).

     

    You wouldn't speaking of Audi, Mercedes and BMW would you? Smiley


    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    It's not an ugly car design wise at all. That's just a moronic statement. I can think of uglier cars, most all American designs and almost the entire Asian output with only a few exceptions.


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

     Another article aiming to piss people off... 


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    I'm not a Ferrari fanboy and we could seriously discuss the California weight and price tag but the design is beautiful, the California is a gorgeous car, I love it. Maybe not my type of car, I prefer the 458 or even the 430 but to say that the California is ugly is a lie or a provocation.

    Regarding the Evora: It is a typical Lotus, which is actually a compliment, this is not an ugly car.

    Regarding the BMW 6series: A bit boring, true but I can't see any ugliness in this car?!

    Apparently some websites are looking for attention, nothing more, nothing less. Stupid.

     


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    Those guys live in the suburbs of LA where Honda cars are everywhere, so maybe their vision has become impaired. 

    These are the same people who paid money to park a brand new Nissan Juke in their garage. The Juke is no design winner unless a jury was on mescaline.

    These same Edmunds.com auto experts bought a 1985 911 with a salvage title and a dented gas tank (!) and believed its owner when he told them that a 85 911 had a top speed of only 127mph.

    I think you can look elsewhere and find better editorial and advice. They are too fond of cars that look like melting baseball caps, dented Miatas and or cars with stereos that have a lot of flashing blue lights.Smiley

     

     


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    The California might not be the stunning Ferrari racecar, but for sure one of the most beautiful GT Convertibles. Giving him the ugliest car award is just not right!


    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    Not much to disagree with.

    Christian, the California is an abomination. It doesn't look good from any angle.

    I suspect for 2012 the list will include the FF. The car is not worthy of Ferrari styling.Smiley

     


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

     I disagree nick, on account of both cars 


    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

     yep i also dont think the cali is ugly, i like it. this contest should be won by the nissan juke... designed by stevie wonder


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    would it have an alfa badge, it would've received much more acceptance.


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    I don't like the California either.

     


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    IMO, the media is in the doldrums...as there is nothing really to report and what better way to bridge to gap to, say, the Frankfurt Motorshow in September, with such a (stupid) article. I have seen two California in red and dark-grey yesterday cruising in Frankfurt and both looked stunning.


    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    intouch1:

    would it have an alfa badge, it would've received much more acceptance.

     

    Well...development started as a Maserati as far as I heard. Smiley

    The California is beautiful but I can understand why F430/F458 lovers don't like it.

    This doesn't mean though that the California is ugly, this is ridiculous. 


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    David Hume's essays, Moral and Political, 1742: "Beauty in things exists merely in the mind which contemplates them." (aka "beauty is in the eye of the beholder") Smiley
     


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    RC:
    intouch1:

    would it have an alfa badge, it would've received much more acceptance.

     

    Well...development started as a Maserati as far as I heard. Smiley

    The California is beautiful but I can understand why F430/F458 lovers don't like it.

    This doesn't mean though that the California is ugly, this is ridiculous. 


    Because beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Smiley

    Personally I think the front of the California is quite nice, reminiscent of older Ferrari models. But the rear - due to the folding hard top - is really ugly. Smiley
     


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    Some statistical study done here in South Florida came up w/ the conclusion that 10-15% of the drivers at any given time were chemically impaired by ethanol, prescription drugs, or non-prescription drugs.  So I expect that there may in fact be automotive juries somewhere that are on mescaline......


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    DaveC:

    Some statistical study done here in South Florida came up w/ the conclusion that 10-15% of the drivers at any given time were chemically impaired by ethanol, prescription drugs, or non-prescription drugs.  So I expect that there may in fact be automotive juries somewhere that are on mescaline......

     

    Which brings me to Rossi and his comment about the California.  Smiley  Smiley

    C'mon guys, read about the definition of ugly. You can turn it as you please but the California never falls into this category. You can call it unpleasant to the eye, not perfect, not my style, whatever but ugly? No way.

    This is ugly.

    1.-fiat-multipla.jpg

    or this

    5.-pontiac-aztek.jpg

     

     

    Not this

    ferrari-california-2009-1600x1200-wallpaper-032.jpg

     


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    hehehe.....spot on.

    what i always found very stupid is the stacked exhaust. just like the three outlet exhaust on the 458.


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    The Cali isn't "ugly" but they could have done a better job I suppose. It doesn't look as good in pictures as it does on the street.


    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    I am sorry RC Smiley The funky exhaust, the rear, the large horizontal placed coca cola bottle (called rear light), the "almost" square (seen from behind) and large hips, etc DO NOT appeal to me. 90% of time we share the same impressions but sorry, not this time. Smiley Smiley

    I have different expectations from a Ferrari or from  a Maserati or from a Alfa Romeo. IMO they need to "scream" passion. This one can be re-badged easily as a Lexus.

     


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    Pentium:

    I am sorry RC Smiley The funky exhaust, the rear, the large horizontal placed coca cola bottle (called rear light), the "almost" square (seen from behind) and large hips, etc DO NOT appeal to me. 90% of time we share the same impressions but sorry, not this time. Smiley Smiley

    I have different expectations from a Ferrari or from  a Maserati or from a Alfa Romeo. IMO they need to "scream" passion. This one can be re-badged easily as a Lexus.

     

     It pains me to say that I agree with you on this Smiley


    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    This still doesn't mean it is ugly.  


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    RC:

    This still doesn't mean it is ugly.  


    Good ole RC splitting hairs again... Smiley
     


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    Rossi:
    RC:

    This still doesn't mean it is ugly.  


    Good ole RC splitting hairs again... Smiley
     

     

     As long as I'm not splitting Atoms... Smiley Smiley


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    Smiley

    RC, since you are good at splitting, how about try the next challenge? Fuse some atoms Smiley


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    Pentium:

    Smiley

    RC, since you are good at splitting, how about try the next challenge? Fuse some atoms Smiley

     

    Then I could finally afford some bad ass sports car with crazy ass power and a jaw braking chassis. Smiley

    Dreams... Smiley


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    the new 918... the future McLaren (above the MP4-12C)... the Zonda Smiley

    Well, I can only wish your dream came true and you take me for a Ring lap or two Smiley

     


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    Re: Ugliest cars of 2011 - California?

    Pentium:

    the new 918... the future McLaren (above the MP4-12C)... the Zonda Smiley

    Well, I can only wish your dream came true and you take me for a Ring lap or two Smiley


    There's a much easier way: just ask Mike. Smiley
     


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