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    P-car cabrio

    So I am looking back at a Porsche Cabrio. My thoughts so far before running the 'budget' with the boss:

    - 997 Cabrio
    - 981 S
    Obviously both 2nd hand, good quality cars are available as I see on listings here.
    - 718 standard - new.

    I already had a 997S, and a 986S boxster. I am more interested how the newer boxster compare vs. 997s...
    Obviously rennteam has not much lover for boxsters. - But since we have no use for backseats I think they are are very credible alternative to 911...

    Help! :-)


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    996C4, Artic silver (gone) 997C2S, Seal/black, -20mm LSD, PSE (gone) 986S, Arctic Silver (gone)


    Re: P-car cabrio

    I would take a 981 S over a 997 cabrio every day.


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    That is exactly my feeling right now. Any thoughts on 718? I don't care about the cylinders because i like torque...but I didn't realize the sound would be that horrible. From what I have heard on the videos shared they totally lost it. Engine noise is the reason i like to take the roof down!!


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    996C4, Artic silver (gone) 997C2S, Seal/black, -20mm LSD, PSE (gone) 986S, Arctic Silver (gone)


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    For the money of a 718 S you could get a used and nicely spec'ed 981 GTS. Given the exhaust sound and engine character I would think the 981 feels far more exciting to drive than the 718. Far less depreciation too if you pick up a used GTS. IMHO it looks better too.

    You need any more arguments? indecision


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    I had a look on Autoscout. You can get a 1-2 year old GTS which was CHF 120k new for CHF 80k from an authorized Porsche garage. Fully equipped.

    A new 718 would depreciated CHF 40k the day you drive it from the dealer. Most likely a "normal" S will continue to drop, while the slightly "special" GTS might keep its value better. Especially as soon as people hear the 718 exhaust angry


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    I also think a 981 GTS is the best way to go for you.


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    daily: BMW 430d
    for fun: Porsche Boxster GTS


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    bluelines:

    I had a look on Autoscout. You can get a 1-2 year old GTS which was CHF 120k new for CHF 80k from an authorized Porsche garage. Fully equipped.

    A new 718 would depreciated CHF 40k the day you drive it from the dealer. Most likely a "normal" S will continue to drop, while the slightly "special" GTS might keep its value better. Especially as soon as people hear the 718 exhaust angry

    Link please can't find it :-)


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    996C4, Artic silver (gone) 997C2S, Seal/black, -20mm LSD, PSE (gone) 986S, Arctic Silver (gone)


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    I can't read anything really negative about the 981s...

    The local dealer has some stock - apparently they sold all 718 until JULY!!!!

    Anyway, he has a standard model new 'black edition' but he doesn't really make a good price on it. I feel he is confident NA 6 cyls engines will keep having demand for. On older models you would think they would make big discounts..not here...that tells you something


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    996C4, Artic silver (gone) 997C2S, Seal/black, -20mm LSD, PSE (gone) 986S, Arctic Silver (gone)


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    My (all-black, red stiching) Cayman GTS runs perfectly since Oct last year and with the PSE as standard I cannot even complain about the sound. A "GTS" would certainly and again be my favourite choice in the 981 range because of all the interior and exterior goodies, so I would not consider any other 981 model.

    However, there is one slight set-back with owning a 981 GTS ...nobody here on Rennteam really cares (apart from Dreamcar and myself, obviously)...Smiley...but then, what do the others know about the best sportscar sensible money can buy... Smiley ...and, as a further (not so serious) note, rumours have it that only white Porsche cars are reaaaaallly fast... Smiley


    Re: P-car cabrio

    found!

    http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/details/details.ipl?cid=7

     


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    996C4, Artic silver (gone) 997C2S, Seal/black, -20mm LSD, PSE (gone) 986S, Arctic Silver (gone)


    Re: P-car cabrio

    I care too wink


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    Jeannot:

    found!

    http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/details/details.ipl?cid=7

    Linkey not workey Smiley

    There is a full black GTS at Porsche Riesbach in Zürich. Looks nice Smiley


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    @ Jeannot: go for a test drive in the 718 (demo cars should be available at the end of this month) - just to find out whether you like torque more than a good sound - and thereafter hurry up to pick up a nice 981 GTS :-) 997 cab is boring in comparison IMHO. Good luck with making the right decision !


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    public roads: Porsche 981 Spyder Riviera-Black, toll road Smiley : Porsche 997 GT3 Arctic-Black


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    I don't want to somehow spoil the show for the 981 GTS, however, a NEW Porsche is a new Porsche is a new Porsche. My service guy was at a gathering in Mallorca over the weekend and he told me that there is a performance gain ( yeah , we know that), the car handles like it is on rails (seems to be the new focus for Porsche), the interior with the new PCM is an improvement and...he even liked the new Porsche lettering in the back. Personally, if my car would turn into an insurance loss today, I would rather opt to go for a new 718S instead of looking into an used 981 GTS, budget permitting...


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    You don't count, sorry...Smiley


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    d997h:

    You don't count, sorry...Smiley

    Smiley


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    Called the dealer, 718s are up for demo on April 30...

    Sound vs torque. It is true i love torque, I drive a BMW X5 diesel and this thing has massive torque I love it...But the sound needs to be ok too....the videos of 718s are so far not very promising in that department!


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    996C4, Artic silver (gone) 997C2S, Seal/black, -20mm LSD, PSE (gone) 986S, Arctic Silver (gone)


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    Looking forward to your feedback kiss I might schedule a test drive too. I somehow fail to believe that it is as bad as it seem in the videos angry Every journalist appear to be emotionless when driving the 718 which is a big difference to the videos for the 981. 


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: P-car cabrio

    981 Spyder not an -inspired- option?


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    2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS / 2013 MINI John Cooper Works GP / 2014 BMW Alpina D3 biturbo Touring


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    Porker:

    981 Spyder not an -inspired- option?

    That would be my choice too Smiley  The one at the track this weekend looked great.


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


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    d997h:

    ......However, there is one slight set-back with owning a 981 GTS ...nobody here on Rennteam really cares (apart from Dreamcar and myself, obviously)...Smiley...but then, what do the others know about the best sportscar sensible money can buy... .....Smiley

    Without a shadow of a doubt my "Baby GTS" is the best driving and best sounding Porsche I've owned by a big margin - and that includes my previous Porsche, a 997/2 Carrera S. Smiley

    ...but what do I know - I drive a Volvo......Smiley


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    Porsche Boxster GTS Carrara white / Volvo V40 R Design daily drive

     


    Re: P-car cabrio

    Test drive both and then chose the one that puts a bigger smile on your face. kiss


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    Used - you have to live with someone else's option choice (but that may include things you wouldn't have spec'd yourself) but you may always harbour a niggling doubt that you don't know the cars full history (that may not be a problem for you) but you'll save "some" cash. (remember, no one pays list for these so don't discount the discount!)

    As folks have noted - drive the car and see which induces the biggest grin. I love the boxster (had two) and I think I'd prefer it over 997 cab - however you might want to stretch the budget slightly and look for an early 991 cab? I think this is what I'd favour if going for a convertible P-car at this point.


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    991 Carrera Black\Black, XC90 Black\Black, 120 Cab Black\Coral Red - 2 kids, 1 dog


     
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