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    Finally, I viewed two 458's in the flesh

     My dealer had them just delivered yesterday. One red and the other black.

    The 458 looks as good in person as it does in the pictures. The black unfortunately hid the styling of the car. The red looked too much like most Ferrari's because a red  Ferrari is a red Ferrari and you tend to look past the styling. Both had the side skirt option grey. Actually it looked good contrary what I thought it would look like.

    The interior design is excellent. It is a huge improvement over the 430 and 360. BUT, I thought the Daytona seats did not look right with the upgraded design interior. The racing seats in the pictures suit the car better. However, when these cars were ordered, the racing seats were unavailable because of supplier issues. Otherwise, the interior materials are the same as the 430 or appeared to be so.

    There were several 430's and Scuderia's in the showroom. I know I am going to get some flack on this but I thought the Scuderia looked as good if not better than the 458. The 458 has a feline/feminine appearance whereas the Scuderia has a race car/aggressive looking posture. The 458 is pretty; the Scud manly.

    They started the 458 up for me and WOW what a sound! Absolutely fantastic! You cannot appreciate how good it is on video. You need to hear it in person.

    Finally, my sales person says to me "I know you are a Spider guy and we don't expect to get any until 2012, would you be interest in the coupe?" I told him I thought I had already expressed an interest and he told me he thought otherwise. However, he said now that he knows I am interested in the coupe, he would keep me in mind. I told him if it was a  long wait then forget it. He said the remaining allocations at the dealership (four) for 2010 were spoken for but was confident I would order early next year. I agreed. 

    Iain, don't get mad at me but they also had two California's on the floor. They were sitting next to the 430's, Scud's and one Spider Scud. They should not have been there. You looked past both of them. They just disappeared. But according to the sales person they are selling well.

     


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    Re: Finally, I viewed two 458's in the flesh

     

    Thanks for the views Nick, I guess I must be one of the only ones left that haven't seen the car in the flesh, the only car in DR right now was picked up by the owner right away and I only got to see a couple pictures of it from my friend at the F dealer  


    Re: Finally, I viewed two 458's in the flesh

    Nick,

    I'm glad you liked the 458 and it doesn't worry me that the Cali did nothing for you. The 997 turbo has the same effect for me. I can walk past those easily without noticing them

    The 458 looks far better with the race seats, leather and alcantara in the cabin to give it bit more texture, some contrast stitching and the carbon driving zone and centre tunnel. Add on a set of the dark grey optional sports wheels and it starts to look a LOT more aggressive. I agree that the Scud looks great but park a 458 next to a regular 430 and it's the older car that looks tame. The 458 will be a grower for sure for many people.

    We've only a few more months to go before we'll see some official news on the 458 spider


    Re: Finally, I viewed two 458's in the flesh

    Iain, the Ferrari people at the dealership were stunned by the 997.2TT performance. When I told them the S performance, they did not believe it. The new Turbo has raised the bar in performance. Smiley

    However, I agree that the Turbo could use a little more modern styling. But try telling that to my wife. She thinks it is the best looking car in the world. When she saw the 458 she said it looked Chinese from the front.Smiley


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    Nick,

    You should know better than to listen to women when it comes to cars

    As for the performance of the Porsche I don't dispute it's fast. The previous 997.1 turbo would have handed your 430 spider a can of woop ass too as I think many of us told you in your pre-Porsche loving period

    A Nissan GTR driver would still give you lots of trouble on the road though in your 997.2 tt for half the price of your car so it's all irrelevant really as I said before. We buy the cars that make us happy and it's all good.

    Buy the GTR then Mrs Berry can justifiably complain about the cars looks

     


    Re: Finally, I viewed two 458's in the flesh

    SmileySmiley 


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    Re: Finally, I viewed two 458's in the flesh

    nberry:

     ...... but I thought the Scuderia looked as good if not better than the 458. The 458 has a feline/feminine appearance whereas the Scuderia has a race car/aggressive looking posture. The 458 is pretty; the Scud manly.


    My exact feelings. Scud is too sexy and its rear is too muscular.


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    Re: Finally, I viewed two 458's in the flesh

    ISUK:

    Nick,

    The 997 turbo has the same effect for me. I can walk past those easily without noticing them

     

    Same here Smiley


    Re: Finally, I viewed two 458's in the flesh

    nberry:

    Iain, the Ferrari people at the dealership were stunned by the 997.2TT performance. When I told them the S performance, they did not believe it. The new Turbo has raised the bar in performance.

     

    Of course they gonna act interested ,even if they didn't believe you. It's called "buy my stuff"


    Re: Finally, I viewed two 458's in the flesh

    My relationship with the dealer has been built on trust for a good many years. We are honest with one another. There is no need to be in a selling posture for either one of us.

    The performance of the new TT is the talk of the auto world. Automobile people appreciate engineering whether it involves the car they sell or a competitors.

    Finally, I have litigated cases for many years and I can assure you I am no hick just walking out of a pumpkin patch. I know if someone is trying to game me. Smiley


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    Re: Finally, I viewed two 458's in the flesh

    I think the 458 looks much more exoctic than the 430, but this does not mean it looks better. I´ve seen both side by side and the 458 screams "look at me" much higher than the 430.

    J.Seven


     
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