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    New ///M cars. Where are they?

    Alright, I live here in the states. I am starting to get a little annoyed at BMW's release schedule when it comes to their cars. They released the new 3 series (I've seen a few here in Philadelphia) but not the M5 yet? THAT KILLS ME! How is it that they can release prototype and finished versions for autoshows all over the world of the M5's and M6's... but not have a E90 3 series available for any shows or even any prototype runs... and yet the new 3 series is released first? I don't like a lot of Mercedes' but I can give them one thing--- when they make a car they do the ENTIRE LINE of the car within a standard time period.

    Just look at their releases...
    E class mercedes-- about 3 months after its release here in the states an E55 is available.
    SL- about 5 months after its release here in the states the AMG version is available.
    SLK- released a few months ago... BUT the AMG version was available at the SAME time the first car rolled into the ports here in the U.S.
    CLS- THE VERY FIRST ONE I SAW WAS AN AMG CLS55 version 3 weeks ago on the streets here...

    I mean... what is bmw's deal?

    Re: New ///M cars. Where are they?

    Take your pick, killer:

    1) Bangle's flame surfacing takes time. One does not rush a master craftsman from Ohio.

    2) ///M prefers to develop its cars further than AMG before slapping on the special badge.

    Re: New ///M cars. Where are they?

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    MAVERICK said:
    Take your pick, killer:

    1) Bangle's flame surfacing takes time. One does not rush a master craftsman from Ohio.




    lol

    Nah, but I heard that the US M5 delay is due to BMW trying to include a manual gearbox option in addition to the SMG for the US market (European M5 is allready available).

    Re: New ///M cars. Where are they?

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    Danny G said:
    I heard that the US M5 delay is due to BMW trying to include a manual gearbox option in addition to the SMG for the US market (European M5 is allready available).



    There should not be a delay for the U.S.A. SMG M5 deliveries because it is ready. However, as you said, Danny, the manual gearbox does need development and will be sold a year later from when the SMG version is sold in the States.

    Re: New ///M cars. Where are they?

    M5 and M6s are on the road in Europe. US 2006 model year M5s are due in fall - similar to Porsche and MBZ specific model roll-outs (Spring / Fall) from a timing standpoint. I've heard the M6 is late fall or early spring - gotta spread out the US magazine coverage , ya know. Possible manual 6 speed (for US mrkt only) not until model year 2007, if ever.

    Re: New ///M cars. Where are they?

    interesting, this is the only time ive heard of the USA getting a 6speed whereas the EU they do not instead of the other way around!

    It was also interesting to hear that the USA is the biggest market for the M cars

    Re: New ///M cars. Where are they?

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    Moogle said:
    interesting, this is the only time ive heard of the USA getting a 6speed whereas the EU they do not instead of the other way around!





    Socialolgist would say it's the " rugged individualist " persona of the American psyche . Similar to refusing to wear seat belts and motorcycle helmets , but then skipping town on the uninsured ED , OR and ICU bills at the public hospital trauma center , letting the " other guy "( i.e., taxpayer ) foot the bill to the tune of hundreds of millions a year nationwide .

    Re: New ///M cars. Where are they?

    I dunno, did you look in the shop for recalls?

    Re: New ///M cars. Where are they?

    BMW released a few dozens M5's, and then production stopped. Deliveries will resume August/September, thats if there is no other delays... The problem seems to be from the SMG gearbox, where its an in house production.
    No official word about the manual gearbox, personally, I don't see it coming. The car was designed from day 1 to have SMG.

    Re: New ///M cars. Where are they?

    I agree, sorta. I believe that bmw will make a manual however, it won't be released until the last two years of the model run (it will be included with a refresh or something). Also, maybe it's that I am impatient. But still, the things that they do blow my mind. It's like they are teasing us here in the states with what they say is coming--- but they start teasing before they even have put an engine in the car and tested it. Again, mercedes doesn't do that. With the G500-- news broke on the prototype about 4 to 5 months ago- I am positive that when mercedes says it will be made in the near future and released--- it will be released in 2-3 months, not 3-12 months.

    BMW has had that car configurator option but no real configurator option on their US website for the last few months- I mean... don't come out with that unless they have it ready to be ordered.
    (another excellent example is the ML--- saw commercials for it the day it was supposed to be able to be purchased... and they were sitting @ the local mercedes lot... ready to be snapped up). that is what I am talking about. In my opinion you do it right.. or you don't do it at all- no half @ss pre-8month teasing crap. My x girlfriend used to do that (which is partly the reason why she is my x.)

    Re: New ///M cars. Where are they?

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    MSB said:
    BMW released a few dozens M5's, and then production stopped. ... The problem seems to be from the SMG gearbox, where its an in house production.
    .


    The outside supplier's ( Gertrag ? ) tool for forming the M5 SMG trannie's gear box HOUSING broke and they didn't have another one ! BMW doesn't build it in house .

    Re: New ///M cars. Where are they?

    to answer your q "killer" It typically takes two to three years for "M" cars to come to the American market, that is after they've been launched in Europe of course. I knew the reason for the delay, but at this present time it has escaped my mind.

    Monday of this week I saw two E60 M5'S running around the neighborhood, i've also seen the M6 rolling around here w/ VERY little camo, BMW's testing facilities are a ways but on the way to/from my house. M6 didnt' look nearly as stunning as the M5 to say the least.... I'm waiting for the M3 now- the real "M" car.

     
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