Apr 16, 2008 2:58:21 AM
- TexasTurbo
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Apr 16, 2008 2:33:38 PM
- MMD
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Re: red stitching on black seats
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MMD said:
I'm afraid to get deviated stitching because it may __seem__ to be a good idea _only_ at the time I ordered it.
For example, kinda like this "stitching:"
I guess this puts a new twist on reading biblical verses. I can only imagine the situation where some gentleman is reading the "stitching."
Seriously, I have seen red, yellow and white deviating stitching on black leather. Red looks great in person - I have seen it both new and on a 2002 GT2 - it seems to hold up well and really gives the interior a wow factor. White and yellow both look good too. I worry that white would get really dirty. The photos do not do justice to yellow - it look great in person. If you go with deviated stitching, make sure Atomic80 and The Groom look over your order so you don't miss anything. I have never seen a car in person where something was not missed.
Re: red stitching on black seats
are they really too bloody stupid to do the shifter boot ???
haven't seen a sungle car where it was done correct.
was going to order deviating stitching on my GT2 and cancelled only as I was SURE they would not get it right.....
deviated stitching with omitted (forgotten or f'd up) stitching is worse than tone in tone....
haven't seen a sungle car where it was done correct.
was going to order deviating stitching on my GT2 and cancelled only as I was SURE they would not get it right.....
deviated stitching with omitted (forgotten or f'd up) stitching is worse than tone in tone....
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Apr 16, 2008 10:21:50 PM
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Re: red stitching on black seats
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RAKLAW said:
I was unaware that there was a separate order code for deviated stitch for the shift boot. I guess I need to study up a bit before I order.
If I remember correctly in the beginning you could ONLY get stock stitching for the shift boot no matter which color you ordered for the rest.
They changed that.
BTW: Would be nice for the new guys if they fkn corrected the SC stopwatch dial so it will match colored dials. (only comes in silver ("white") or black)
Re: red stitching on black seats
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sparkhill said:
I guess this puts a new twist on reading biblical verses. I can only imagine the situation where some gentleman is reading the "stitching."
LOL! I know..., wow!
UN real!
Oh...! Here's another one I can't resist posting (sorry to hijack):
Re: red stitching on black seats
Deviated stitching... some people like it, some don't. But if you do it, do it right. 
Ordering deviated stitching is an arcane process as Porsche. You have nine options to order:
24891: seats
24901: dashboard top
24902: door top panel
24903: door handle
24904: PCM side panels
24905: rear side panels
09991: all Exclusive options
one Exclusive shifter/handbrake package
one Exclusive steering wheel.
Shifter/handbrake package must be one of the following:
on a manual:
DAW (same as DAD shifter; see blueline's car)
DAT (same but in Alcantara)
DAX (same as EGA shifter)
on a Tip:
DAV (same as DAW)
DAU (same as DAT)
Don't forget to add CDZ to DAT and CFA to DAU as those nice-looking options are not included in the Alcantara shifters (but they definitely are in DAV/DAW/DAX).
Exclusive steering wheels:
XPA: thicker sports steering wheel
CFA: thicker rim for "triangular" steering wheel or multifunction steering wheel
CLA: thicker rim in Alcantara for sports, triangular or MF steering wheel
XPV: Aluminum-look MF steering wheel.
Regarding carbon fiber (or wood for that matter) options:
As RAKLAW mentioned, the carbon fiber package (803) is not an Exclusive options and is not covered by any stitching option. If you order 803, you get what MMD posted. To avoid that, don't order 803. Order DAT/DAU/DAV/DAW/DAX to get the shifter boot right. Order the missing CF dashboard trim strip from your dealer and let him install it when the car arrives.
Similarly, the CF MF steering wheel is not available with deviated stitching. You have to go aftermarket if you want CF inserts and deviated stitching.
Exception: carbon fiber on the GT2 and GT3:
AFAIK the carbon package is actually an Exclusive option on the GT models (EZA), so it is covered by 09991!
However, you must order XPA to get deviated stitching on the steering wheel.
(unless there is a hidden option to get deviated stitching on the stock Alcantara wheel that I have not heard about).
Ordering deviated stitching is an arcane process as Porsche. You have nine options to order:
24891: seats
24901: dashboard top
24902: door top panel
24903: door handle
24904: PCM side panels
24905: rear side panels
09991: all Exclusive options
one Exclusive shifter/handbrake package
one Exclusive steering wheel.
Shifter/handbrake package must be one of the following:
on a manual:
DAW (same as DAD shifter; see blueline's car)
DAT (same but in Alcantara)
DAX (same as EGA shifter)
on a Tip:
DAV (same as DAW)
DAU (same as DAT)
Don't forget to add CDZ to DAT and CFA to DAU as those nice-looking options are not included in the Alcantara shifters (but they definitely are in DAV/DAW/DAX).
Exclusive steering wheels:
XPA: thicker sports steering wheel
CFA: thicker rim for "triangular" steering wheel or multifunction steering wheel
CLA: thicker rim in Alcantara for sports, triangular or MF steering wheel
XPV: Aluminum-look MF steering wheel.
Regarding carbon fiber (or wood for that matter) options:
As RAKLAW mentioned, the carbon fiber package (803) is not an Exclusive options and is not covered by any stitching option. If you order 803, you get what MMD posted. To avoid that, don't order 803. Order DAT/DAU/DAV/DAW/DAX to get the shifter boot right. Order the missing CF dashboard trim strip from your dealer and let him install it when the car arrives.
Similarly, the CF MF steering wheel is not available with deviated stitching. You have to go aftermarket if you want CF inserts and deviated stitching.
Exception: carbon fiber on the GT2 and GT3:
AFAIK the carbon package is actually an Exclusive option on the GT models (EZA), so it is covered by 09991!
However, you must order XPA to get deviated stitching on the steering wheel.
(unless there is a hidden option to get deviated stitching on the stock Alcantara wheel that I have not heard about).
Re: red stitching on black seats
Nice write-up... lots of options... and possibilities make mistakes 
I just checked my Turbo specification. I only have one option for the stitching with a code SZ and the explanatory text says "All stitching in Guards Red".
These are my interior options (if anyone is interested). Freely translated from German in close-to Bablefish quality:
SZ All Stitching in Guards Red
CDZ Leather in front of the shift-boot
DAD Aluminum shifter and handbrake leaver
XMZ Center console leather
XPA Thicker sports steering wheel
XTV Door panels leather
CFX Floor carpets with Guards Red borders
XNS Steering column in leather
XSB Sport seats with rear "panel" in leather
XSX Guards Red seatbelts
I just checked my Turbo specification. I only have one option for the stitching with a code SZ and the explanatory text says "All stitching in Guards Red".
These are my interior options (if anyone is interested). Freely translated from German in close-to Bablefish quality:
SZ All Stitching in Guards Red
CDZ Leather in front of the shift-boot
DAD Aluminum shifter and handbrake leaver
XMZ Center console leather
XPA Thicker sports steering wheel
XTV Door panels leather
CFX Floor carpets with Guards Red borders
XNS Steering column in leather
XSB Sport seats with rear "panel" in leather
XSX Guards Red seatbelts
Re: red stitching on black seats
The other thing about DS?
It's probably like the Wart. People get in your car and first thing the see and ask about is your..., ahem..., "outstanding" stitching.
Same thing happens with the SC when they realize it's not a clock. "What's a stopwatch doing there?"
Gets tiring because you always have to make an excuse for Porsche putting such a stupid fkn thing on the dash.
It's probably like the Wart. People get in your car and first thing the see and ask about is your..., ahem..., "outstanding" stitching.
Same thing happens with the SC when they realize it's not a clock. "What's a stopwatch doing there?"
Gets tiring because you always have to make an excuse for Porsche putting such a stupid fkn thing on the dash.
Re: red stitching on black seats
The introduction of unified ordering codes is a major improvement. But those codes have not made their way into the 2008 ordering guides. 
I know that the ordering process has changed since the 997 was first introduced (especially regarding the whole shifter/handbrake situation). It might change once again when the facelift is introduced.
I know that the ordering process has changed since the 997 was first introduced (especially regarding the whole shifter/handbrake situation). It might change once again when the facelift is introduced.
Re: red stitching on black seats
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The Groom said:
Deviated stitching... some people like it, some don't. But if you do it, do it right.
Ordering deviated stitching is an arcane process as Porsche. You have nine options to order:
24891: seats
24901: dashboard top
24902: door top panel
24903: door handle
24904: PCM side panels
24905: rear side panels
09991: all Exclusive options
one Exclusive shifter/handbrake package
one Exclusive steering wheel.
Shifter/handbrake package must be one of the following:
on a manual:
DAW (same as DAD shifter; see blueline's car)
DAT (same but in Alcantara)
DAX (same as EGA shifter)
on a Tip:
DAV (same as DAW)
DAU (same as DAT)
Don't forget to add CDZ to DAT and CFA to DAU as those nice-looking options are not included in the Alcantara shifters (but they definitely are in DAV/DAW/DAX).
Exclusive steering wheels:
XPA: thicker sports steering wheel
CFA: thicker rim for "triangular" steering wheel or multifunction steering wheel
CLA: thicker rim in Alcantara for sports, triangular or MF steering wheel
XPV: Aluminum-look MF steering wheel.
Regarding carbon fiber (or wood for that matter) options:
As RAKLAW mentioned, the carbon fiber package (803) is not an Exclusive options and is not covered by any stitching option. If you order 803, you get what MMD posted. To avoid that, don't order 803. Order DAT/DAU/DAV/DAW/DAX to get the shifter boot right. Order the missing CF dashboard trim strip from your dealer and let him install it when the car arrives.
Similarly, the CF MF steering wheel is not available with deviated stitching. You have to go aftermarket if you want CF inserts and deviated stitching.
Exception: carbon fiber on the GT2 and GT3:
AFAIK the carbon package is actually an Exclusive option on the GT models (EZA), so it is covered by 09991!
However, you must order XPA to get deviated stitching on the steering wheel.
(unless there is a hidden option to get deviated stitching on the stock Alcantara wheel that I have not heard about).
This post is certainly important enough to warrant own thread. You and Jason were incredibly helpful to me. I have yet to see a car in person that had deviated stitching done correctly.
Re: red stitching on black seats
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sparkhill said:
This post is certainly important enough to warrant own thread. You and Jason were incredibly helpful to me. I have yet to see a car in person that had deviated stitching done correctly.
Those guys are amazing aren't they?!
Porsche should hire guys like A80 and Groom to help buyers in ways the sometimes-goofy sales guys can't even dream of.
Re: red stitching on black seats
Remember that Western Look in men's clothes? I think it was around the time of the Leisure Suit. Hummmm maybe it _was_ the Leisure Suit!
The _stock_ stitching used to bother me in our cars. When they first came out I thought the prominent stitching was put there so there could be no doubt that the interior was leather; seemed kind of a silly justification to me.
Also, all those extra _lines_ (especially across the dash) took away from the flow of the interior. I tried and failed to attribute that to a reference back to the original form-follows-function of the earliest 911s.
Okay..., sorry gents, this is horrible but..., I had to pull it out..., it just wouldn't be fair to leave it hidden:
The _stock_ stitching used to bother me in our cars. When they first came out I thought the prominent stitching was put there so there could be no doubt that the interior was leather; seemed kind of a silly justification to me.
Also, all those extra _lines_ (especially across the dash) took away from the flow of the interior. I tried and failed to attribute that to a reference back to the original form-follows-function of the earliest 911s.
Okay..., sorry gents, this is horrible but..., I had to pull it out..., it just wouldn't be fair to leave it hidden:
Re: red stitching on black seats
I like the stitching in person it looks better.
That picture with the manicon is not fair your looking at a cheap peice of garment whereas the interior of the 911 is quality leather in a car.
pictures dont do things justice somtimes. I think the interior of the 911 is awesome it just needs some touch up to make it look 1st class.
That picture with the manicon is not fair your looking at a cheap peice of garment whereas the interior of the 911 is quality leather in a car.
pictures dont do things justice somtimes. I think the interior of the 911 is awesome it just needs some touch up to make it look 1st class.
Apr 20, 2008 9:07:09 PM
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