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Re: tough question
I owned a 430 coupe and now own a 430 Spider. I have driven the CGT often. Totally two different cars.
The CGT is by far a better performance car. It has a fabulous exhaust (only under acceleration) and handles beautifully provided you are an excellent driver. It requires the driver to work to get the most out of the car. In a word, it is difficult to drive fast(it doesn't have any stability devices to extricate a driver should he/she make an error) but once you mastered it I doubt any other car now in production can equal it. Undoubtly a phenomenal performance car.
Its disadvantages are small cabin, quirky clutch, low riding front end leading to numerous scrapes unless you alter your route of travel and avoid low points. Fairly steep depreciation and maintenance (requires a valve adjustment at 20,000 miles). Also, I found the ride to be somewhat jarring.
The 430 coupe is a great performance car as well but nowhere near the CGT. However, in my opinion more fun to drive because it is easy to drive fast. With all the electronic aids it certainly makes me a better driver and provides me with a comfortable margin of error. You do not have to drive the car fast to enjoy the sound, sharp handling and performance. It is a terrific car. In the US the car will only appreciate as you drive it. Maintenance is like all other high perf. sport cars. I had my 5000 done recently and it cost about $1000.00.
Disadvantage is, at least in the US, it is a difficult car to purchase at MSRP.
The CGT is by far a better performance car. It has a fabulous exhaust (only under acceleration) and handles beautifully provided you are an excellent driver. It requires the driver to work to get the most out of the car. In a word, it is difficult to drive fast(it doesn't have any stability devices to extricate a driver should he/she make an error) but once you mastered it I doubt any other car now in production can equal it. Undoubtly a phenomenal performance car.
Its disadvantages are small cabin, quirky clutch, low riding front end leading to numerous scrapes unless you alter your route of travel and avoid low points. Fairly steep depreciation and maintenance (requires a valve adjustment at 20,000 miles). Also, I found the ride to be somewhat jarring.
The 430 coupe is a great performance car as well but nowhere near the CGT. However, in my opinion more fun to drive because it is easy to drive fast. With all the electronic aids it certainly makes me a better driver and provides me with a comfortable margin of error. You do not have to drive the car fast to enjoy the sound, sharp handling and performance. It is a terrific car. In the US the car will only appreciate as you drive it. Maintenance is like all other high perf. sport cars. I had my 5000 done recently and it cost about $1000.00.
Disadvantage is, at least in the US, it is a difficult car to purchase at MSRP.
Re: tough question
Thanks, that helps a lot. I am located in Canada, will drive it a lot as all my other cars, so I am looking into easy to drive point, not at high speeds etc. but exactly what you said about "numerous scrapes unless you alter your route of travel and avoid low points" does concern me.
Btw any difference between Spyder and coupe? Handling wise?
Btw any difference between Spyder and coupe? Handling wise?
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cer300 said:
Thanks, that helps a lot. I am located in Canada, will drive it a lot as all my other cars, so I am looking into easy to drive point, not at high speeds etc. but exactly what you said about "numerous scrapes unless you alter your route of travel and avoid low points" does concern me.
Btw any difference between Spyder and coupe? Handling wise?
As a reference, I also owned two 360's and I found that the 430 front end is a little higher than the 360 and rarely do I experience scraping.
I have always been a convertible person so I am biased toward the Spider. However, I believe the coupe is a tad better in performance but hardly noticeable. Track test run by Ferrari show almost an imperceptible advantage to the coupe.
I am curious, since you own a 997TT and a 360 coupe why would you want 430 coupe?
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I actualy own 360 CS 2004, I want ferrari for "every day" and I see F430 is the one to meet my goal. Plus I just felt in love with the car and so few of my friends who drive it. Anyway I was never a huge fan of 360, CS was different being really on the edge but I dont really want to drive it every day, or let say I have to think where I go and if I can/want to use CS. Now with 997 TT I dont have such a "problem" then the car doesnt excite me the way ferrari CS does and even in general ferrari (sound, road feedback, design), so I staretd to think about F430, the price here is 300K and I so adding 50k will give me 2005 CGT, so I started to think.
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cer300 said: so I staretd to think about F430, the price here is 300K and I so adding 50k will give me 2005 CGT, so I started to think.
If the price difference is just 50k you should directly go for the CGT.
It is a different class of a car. Also, you have other cars for non-CGT situations (like rain, bumpy roads etc.)
The CGT is an outstanding car - in particular at a low price as 350k
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cer300 said:
I actualy own 360 CS 2004, I want ferrari for "every day" and I see F430 is the one to meet my goal. Plus I just felt in love with the car and so few of my friends who drive it. Anyway I was never a huge fan of 360, CS was different being really on the edge but I dont really want to drive it every day, or let say I have to think where I go and if I can/want to use CS. Now with 997 TT I dont have such a "problem" then the car doesnt excite me the way ferrari CS does and even in general ferrari (sound, road feedback, design),
2006 Gallardo? Sound, road feedback, no "problem", design, safety from what I've read.
Have you driven the 2006 Gallardo on a good 1-2 hour test drive?
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cer300 said:
I actualy own 360 CS 2004, I want ferrari for "every day" and I see F430 is the one to meet my goal. Plus I just felt in love with the car and so few of my friends who drive it. Anyway I was never a huge fan of 360, CS was different being really on the edge but I dont really want to drive it every day, or let say I have to think where I go and if I can/want to use CS. Now with 997 TT I dont have such a "problem" then the car doesnt excite me the way ferrari CS does and even in general ferrari (sound, road feedback, design), so I staretd to think about F430, the price here is 300K and I so adding 50k will give me 2005 CGT, so I started to think.
If only a $50k difference get the CGT. And if possible keep the CS.
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cer300 said: so I staretd to think about F430, the price here is 300K and I so adding 50k will give me 2005 CGT, so I started to think.
If the price difference is just 50k you should directly go for the CGT.
It is a different class of a car. Also, you have other cars for non-CGT situations (like rain, bumpy roads etc.)
The CGT is an outstanding car - in particular at a low price as 350k
It's unconscionable how much more you can get for "so little."
The CGT is one of the most phenomenal road cars ever made. Take the turbo or any of the others for the daily grind. The CGT will reward you when you want more.
What I would also love about having a CGT is that it is almost an unconquerable car. You can keep pushing it, but unless you are a masterful car, you can still grow into it.
Just be careful
Re: tough question
I never really bought supercars, because I wasnt sure I can drive them as I want, since this is what I like to do. Saleen is a great car but more exotic, not sure I can drive it anywhere. I am leaning towards CGT, also its a car to keep for many years, while knowing my self when next Ferrari comes out I will want to replace 430 with it and then hear again my wife saying I am nuts. I am already thinking to buy 599...With CGT I dont think I ever will have regerts looking at her in my garage, the same feeling I have with my CS or Ducati Monster.
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What I would also love about having a CGT is that it is almost an unconquerable car. You can keep pushing it, ... you can still grow into it.
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cer300 said:With CGT I don't think I ever will have regrets looking at her in my garage, the same feeling I have with my CS or Ducati Monster.
The comments above pretty much illustrate my feelings about my Carrera GT. It is so much car, and so involving at the deepest levels, that I'll still be uncovering its nuances for many years to come. Its a better car than I am a driver and remains as a pleasurable challenge.
I used to get bored with sports cars not so long after buying them, and start looking for more.
Not now.
The CGT has so much left in it to explore that one can't be bored. The only circumstance that could cause me to part with it would involve some sort of physical infirmity.
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