CAR magazine - cayman article
gt 7.32
gt3 7.56
turbo 7.56
997s 7.59
cayman s 8.11
bmw m3 8.14
997 8.15
boxster s 8.18
boxster 8.31
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Eurospeed said:
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and look at that nasty M3.....just 5 or so years old now.....nippin' at the Caymans heels.....wonder what the E90 400HP version will do?
The E46 M3 ring time is 8:22. 8:14 might be the e90 400HP ring time.
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ezzie said:
The cayman has made the cover of august's CAR magazine and eight pages within. The magazine claim to be the first to drive an undisguised version, driven by george kacher.
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mark34 said:
I think it was the M3 competition package, with race tires. I believe I read that in another article or thread.
How recent is that time? Wasn't the M3 competition package fairly recent? Perhpas it was the M3 CSL?
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Chris217 said:
Can it be real the Boxster S loses to the M3? It must be the M3 CSL.
Well, the M3 does have 53hp more (pretty sweet motor when it doesn't explode)...
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Chris217 said:
Can it be real the Boxster S loses to the M3? It must be the M3 CSL.
Well, the M3 does have 53hp more (pretty sweet motor when it doesn't explode)...
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ezzie said:
The cayman has made the cover of august's CAR magazine and eight pages within. The magazine claim to be the first to drive an undisguised version, driven by george kacher. He gushes about it and questions the sanity of anyone buying a 911. Other interesting nuggets, cs version in 2007 and the base 250bhp model out next year. Alas no scanner, but if I can find a way, will do so. Also includes nurburgring times as follows:
gt 7.32
gt3 7.56
turbo 7.56
997s 7.59
cayman s 8.11
bmw m3 8.14
997 8.15
boxster s 8.18
boxster 8.31
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Chris217 said:
Can it be real the Boxster S loses to the M3? It must be the M3 CSL.
Well, the M3 does have 53hp more (pretty sweet motor when it doesn't explode)...
True, but it does weigh 400lbs more, has crappy brakes (for track use), and understeers quite a bit. Also, because in the end they both have 3.2L engines, there isn't a big torque difference.
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ezzie said:I actually think that the 18 m slalom time shows best what the Boxster S is capable of: 71.1 kph.
M3 E46: 66.1 kph
Boxster S (986 MkII): 67.1 kph
997 Carrera S (PASM): 66.9 kph
GT2 (996) MkII: 68.9 kph
SLK 55 AMG: 65.8kph
Honda S2000: 64.1 kph
Do I need to say more?
I find it pretty impressive for Porsche's "entry-level" model.
I think RC is in love with his wifes Boxster S
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MikeN said:
BTW the M3 puts out 26 more lb ft of torque compared to the Boxster S and will still beat the Cayman by 7.....and it's about 6 years old now.
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Have you taken a ZCP comp package equipped version for a ride lately?......huge cross-drilled brakes, better steering ratio, etc. While still not the 5 star handler the Boxster is......it's nothing to sneeze at either, and will hussle around a track pretty damn well with a good driver.
BTW the M3 puts out 26 more lb ft of torque compared to the Boxster S and will still beat the Cayman by 7.....and it's about 6 years old now.
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MikeN said:
BTW the M3 puts out 26 more lb ft of torque compared to the Boxster S and will still beat the Cayman by 7.....and it's about 6 years old now.
The name is 6 years old, the concept is 6 years old but not the car. Every car manufacturer modifies the cars in each model year, most customers never get to know that.
The latest "Performance Package" for the M3 has actually proven to have a worse performance on the track than the original setup. The testdriver was wondering himself, speculating that BMW maybe provided "better" cars for previous tests.
But anyway: the M3 does the Nordschleife in 8 min 22 seconds (SPORT AUTO). The "old" Boxster S with 252 HP (MkI) needed 10(!) seconds longer but also 91 HP less. The new Boxster S with 280 HP hasn't been tested yet by SPORT AUTO on the Nordschleife but in Hockenheim Kleiner Ring, it was slightly faster than the M3.
The Cayman S should do a SPORT AUTO test time of around 8 min 15 or 16 sec. Still 6 seconds faster than the M3 with almost 50 HP less.
I start to understand why BMW drivers always feel provoked when they are standing next to my 997 Carrera S and/or are driving in front or behind me. They actually think they can outrun me...funny.