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kudryavchik:Leawood911:Wonderful Monday everyone! What an amazing discussion. Thanks guys. In the long run we need better battery tech - Cobalt free specifically. It is hard to imagine Diesel and gas having more potential at this point than the advances we will see in the next few decades with batteries and nuclear. I just don’t see ICE having the same potential into the future.
The good news is that we as car enthusiasts will get quicker and better cars in the bargain. Will there be some nostalgia for the ICE cars? Of course - we also know pretty well which cars will increase in value as a result and which you won’t be able to give away. We are in the perfect spot for this shift and opportunity.
Lastly - stop selling your freedoms at the ballot box. Fire the socialists. Period. Big government everywhere is the same. We are their crop and their are the farmers. They pretend the crop votes and then pretend to do what we asked them to. Apologies to any farmers on this thread.
Leawood, the interesting thing is that the current battery tech has already reached its limits. And, unfortunately, the solid state electrolyte doesn't show anything revolutionary... The capacity per kilo is higher, but not in times. tens %. Also, currently I see no way to decrease the charging time. Considering that you need 40-50 mins to charge 60-70% (ideal conditions) you will need 4-5 times more electric stations than traditional gasoline.
Also, electric mobility will shift the cars more into gadgets. Decrease of lifecycle, more dependance on updates and software, also all electric motors are the same. It means the cars will be iphones. Iphone X or Iphone 13 - no difference on user experience, same soft. Only better camera, bit brighter screen and performance evolution. In 7 years it will be turned off from services, buy new one, old will be unusable
I called that almost 3 years ago when I bought my first EV, the e-Tron.
EVs by nature, are disposable cars. Nothing more.
No one in the year 2048 will say boy I missed my father's Model 3, I am going to hunt down the perfect Model 3. Those will be in a landfill somewhere rotting while someone else is still trying to figure out how to recycle the damn thing.
Normal cars however aren't disposable. (well maybe the Camrys and Yugos) (actually scratched that, I met someone in Europe before that restores Yugos) Many here are hurting for old cars. 10-20-30-40 year old cars. Restoring them and such. Heck I have 2 in the garage right now approaching 30 year old and I am trying to find a 3rd.
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