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Re: 997S!!!
I look at the M3 kinda like I look at the Mustang Cobra. It's a whale of a performer, but you're paying alot of dough for a car with extremely pedestrian roots. It's a hot-rodded grocery getter. Now of course the M3 is an extremely WONDERFULLY EXECUTED AND ENGINEERED piece, but I still can never get around the fact that it's still 80% 3-series. A Porsche 911 is purpose-built and engineered from top to bottom. An M3 is a transformer car, transformed into its purpose. And believe me, that's a COMPLIMENT to BMW, because I've done road-course laps in an '04 M3, and it's an amazing accomplishment and an amazing machine.
Mar 18, 2005 3:19:04 PM
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Thanks fellow members. I felt real good before and I feel GREAT now. 
Nothing like words of encouragement from the experts who are " in the know ", and not the Cadillac salesman who said I was making the "misake of a lifetime" by not choosing their new " USA made rocketship". 
Nothing like words of encouragement from the experts who are " in the know ", and not the Cadillac salesman who said I was making the "misake of a lifetime" by not choosing their new " USA made rocketship".
Mar 18, 2005 4:15:25 PM
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I got to drive the CTS-V on the same track day I did the M3, and it's an impressive track car once you figure out how to disable all of the electronic suspension and traction nannies, which are extremely intrusive when on. After that, it was an impressive drive. But too plasticky/cheapie inside for a car that pricey. Cadillac has a long way to go educating its dealer network. The dealer owner who provided the CTS-V at the track event I was at was not letting people drive the car "until the brakes stop smelling". We all laughed at him, and after an hour or two, he figured out that all of the other cars provided at the event, from Lambo to Dodge Neon, were being hammered non-stop, brakes glowing-red-hot, and realized that he better loosen up his nylon tie a bit..LOL
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never heard of anyone going back to an m3 from a 911
Statement premature. The next generation M3 will boast a V8 with 400-440 bhp on tap. Look out Porschephiles.
The proposed styling of the new E90 M3 (400+hp) makes me queasy. I try to like the looks of that car and just can't. There's no way I would buy that car just because it looks so frickin trendy and frilly
Mar 18, 2005 6:26:08 PM
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He referred to the CTS-V, and I share the same analogy as 69, too much plastic and GM feel. I didn't drive it, just stopped for a few minutes at closing time. I wasn't impressed at all. I think it was Automoblle Magazine who said it looked a " high school drawing gone bad." Hey MMD, GREAT pictures of the old and new.I share your sentiment and believe I made the right decision. 
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Statement premature. The next generation M3 will boast a V8 with 400-440 bhp on tap. Look out Porschephiles.
BMW may put 1000 bhp in their cars... they will become equally more heavy...
Enjoy the lightness of a porsche... And not 1000BHP in a BMW can provide the vibes of driving a porsche...
I drove a lot of fast cars but the 997S cabrio will be my 4th porsche and you know why???
It's a disease you'll never recover off
Mar 20, 2005 3:19:39 AM
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Statement premature. The next generation M3 will boast a V8 with 400-440 bhp on tap. Look out Porschephiles.
BMW may put 1000 bhp in their cars... they will become equally more heavy...
Enjoy the lightness of a porsche... And not 1000BHP in a BMW can provide the vibes of driving a porsche...
I drove a lot of fast cars but the 997S cabrio will be my 4th porsche and you know why???
It's a disease you'll never recover off
Absolutely - they should stick to 6 cyls. I expect the V8 will make them more AMG like which is a shame. More torque doesn't mean better. The M3 is very entertaining to drive because you have to find the power band from 5000-8500 revs and when you it rewards you.
More torque low down = less driver involvement.
The CSL is the best car BMW ever made.
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