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Mar 10, 2005 7:09:03 PM

Rich C (UK): Veteran; Loc: Mortimer, UK; Posts: 1098, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 11, 2004

Bored.. so a question..

With all the views on the different sized wheel combinations - 17", 18" or 19".. or more! I was wondering whether those of you in metric countries use imperial or metric sizings when comparing them - somehow to me a 482.6mm wheel doesn't quite trip off the tongue in the same way. I know silly question but I've had 4 long days of finance meetings, my car is 4000miles away, and the brain begins to wander....

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Mar 10, 2005 7:21:12 PM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: Rich C (UK)

Re: Bored.. so a question..

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Rich C (UK) said:
With all the views on the different sized wheel combinations - 17", 18" or 19".. or more! I was wondering whether those of you in metric countries use imperial or metric sizings when comparing them - somehow to me a 482.6mm wheel doesn't quite trip off the tongue in the same way. I know silly question but I've had 4 long days of finance meetings, my car is 4000miles away, and the brain begins to wander....

My, you ARE in a bad way.

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Mar 10, 2005 7:25:03 PM

Futch: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: EU , United Kingdom; Posts: 4759, Gallery; Registered on: May 14, 2002; Reply to: Rich C (UK)

Re: Bored.. so a question..

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Rich C (UK) said:
With all the views on the different sized wheel combinations - 17", 18" or 19".. or more! I was wondering whether those of you in metric countries use imperial or metric sizings when comparing them - somehow to me a 482.6mm wheel doesn't quite trip off the tongue in the same way. I know silly question but I've had 4 long days of finance meetings, my car is 4000miles away, and the brain begins to wander....

We use Imperial like you.
In Inches.

Somethings you just use in a certain unit and no other, like a barel of oil, or a pint of beer, etc.

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Mar 10, 2005 11:24:31 PM

Martin Tyler: Co-Pilot; Loc: London, UK; Posts: 230, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2003; Reply to: Futch

Re: Bored.. so a question..

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Fanch said:
We use Imperial like you.

Where do you think Rich C (UK), Loc: Andover, UK is from?

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Mar 11, 2005 7:27:25 AM

boubou: Junior; Loc: Brussels , Belgium; Posts: 52, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 12, 2004; Reply to: Rich C (UK)

Re: Bored.. so a question..

wheels are in inches, altitude is in feet, aviation speed in knots (Nautical Mile per hour). the rest is pretty much in metric like engine size in liters, lenght in meters.
greets from belgium

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Mar 11, 2005 7:48:03 AM

wtsnet: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Bath, UK; Posts: 2430, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 19, 2004; Reply to: Martin Tyler

Re: Bored.. so a question..

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Martin Tyler said:
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Fanch said:
We use Imperial like you.

Where do you think Rich C (UK), Loc: Andover, UK is from?

I think Fanch probably meant:
"We use Imperial (for the wheel size) like you."

I think bicycle tyres are measured in metric mm these days, although we still (in the UK at least) refer to bicycle frame sizes in inches.

Anyone know WHY car wheel sizes are in inches? My theory is that it's something to do with the USA being the driving force (bad pun, sorry) in the industry, and the fact that cars exported globally need to conform to some sort of standard due to manufacturing expense if otherwise.

Do you ever stop to think how much of a pain it must be for most manufacturers to have to put the steering wheel on the right, JUST for us?

(Yes, and probably Japan. Is it Japan that also drives on the left?)

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Mar 11, 2005 9:27:41 AM

Futch: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: EU , United Kingdom; Posts: 4759, Gallery; Registered on: May 14, 2002; Reply to: Martin Tyler

Re: Bored.. so a question..

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Martin Tyler said:
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Fanch said:
We use Imperial like you.

Where do you think Rich C (UK), Loc: Andover, UK is from?

The question was regarding rims so I answered for rims only of course.

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Mar 11, 2005 9:45:03 AM

Martin Tyler: Co-Pilot; Loc: London, UK; Posts: 230, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2003; Reply to: Futch

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Fanch said:
The question was regarding rims so I answered for rims only of course.

My point was you are both in UK according to your profile, so I was questioning what the 'we' and 'you' meant.

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Mar 11, 2005 1:28:20 PM

The Groom: Expert; Loc: EU; Posts: 1779, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 23, 2005; Reply to: Martin Tyler

Re: Bored.. so a question..

Back in the 80's, Michelin tried to move to the Metric system, but they failed.
So we're back to the nonsensical hybrid system where the rim diameter is in inches, but the width is in millimetres.

World (naval or air) navigation is still using Imperial - a legacy of the dominance of the British Navy, then the USN and the USAF. Or maybe is it because Americans are too stuborn to see the light? ;p
FYI nautical miles and knots (not a part of the Imperial system btw) are still being used because they make more sense than metres: a nautical mile is equal to a minute (1/60th of a degree). This made perfect sense back when you had to compute your position using a compass and a sextant!

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Mar 11, 2005 1:35:23 PM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: The Groom

Re: Bored.. so a question..

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World (naval or air) navigation is still using Imperial - a legacy of the dominance of the British Navy, then the USN and the USAF. Or maybe is it because Americans are too stuborn to see the light? ;p
FYI nautical miles and knots (not a part of the Imperial system btw) are still being used because they make more sense than metres: a nautical mile is equal to a minute (1/60th of a degree). This made perfect sense back when you had to compute your position using a compass and a sextant!

Those were the days! When the only reason countries on the world map that weren't painted pink on the map were the ones we didn't want. Now we are surrounded by upstart colonials.

At least we still have the Greenwich Meridian and Greenwich Mean Tine (zulu) as world bench marks. The last evidence of our once great heritage was the demise of the Royal Yacht Britannia - and Concorde (yes I know the French did help us a little bit with the latter)

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Mar 11, 2005 3:03:00 PM

vtrader: Veteran; Loc: Los Angeles; Posts: 1086, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 6, 2004; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: Bored.. so a question..

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dreamcar said:
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The Groom said:
World (naval or air) navigation is still using Imperial - a legacy of the dominance of the British Navy, then the USN and the USAF. Or maybe is it because Americans are too stuborn to see the light? ;p
FYI nautical miles and knots (not a part of the Imperial system btw) are still being used because they make more sense than metres: a nautical mile is equal to a minute (1/60th of a degree). This made perfect sense back when you had to compute your position using a compass and a sextant!

Those were the days! When the only reason countries on the world map that weren't painted pink on the map were the ones we didn't want. Now we are surrounded by upstart colonials. At least we still have the Greenwich Meridian and Greenwich Mean Tine (zulu) as world bench marks. The last evidence of our once great heritage was the demise of the Royal Yacht Britannia - and Concorde (yes I know the French did help us a little bit with the latter)

Hey, they tried to teach us metric in school but I guess we failed miserably.

Greenwich Meridian and Greenwich Mean Time (zulu) maybe world bench marks, but here in the US, it the same as metric, we do not reference them at all. Give me PST, PDT, EDT, or EST any day of the week.

Remember, we are they ones that revolted. That is why we changed the English language also. I can not believe how many words you guys mis-spell and mispronounce.

(PST- Pacific Standard Time,
PDT- Pacific Daylight Saving Time,
EST- Eastern Standard Time,
EDT- Eastern Daylight Saving Time)

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Mar 11, 2005 3:26:30 PM

JZ: Pilot; Loc: London, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 370, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: vtrader

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wow, a lesson on the English Language from a Yank. There's something you don't see everyday.

Aviation is a mix of natutical units (speed in knots), imperial (altitude in feet) and metric (runway length in meters). Temperature is measured in degrees celsius, visibility in kilometers and runway visual range in metres, however distance between waypoints is in nautical miles. Windspeed in knots, weight in kilos and tonnes (unless you are a Yank, where its in pounds), and pressures in PSI, unless it is meterological pressure in which case Europe is in hPa and the Yanks do it differently in Inches of Mercury.....go figure.

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Mar 11, 2005 4:16:57 PM

girlracer: Junior; Loc: Austin, TX; Posts: 101, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 29, 2005; Reply to: JZ

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wow, a lesson on the English Language from a Yank. There's something you don't see everyday.

Try being English and living in Texas!

Actually to be fair, most people I speak to are very eager to learn the 'correct' way to pronounce things!

Unless it's just an excuse to hear an English girl talk some more?

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Mar 11, 2005 4:38:47 PM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: girlracer

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Try being English and living in Texas! Actually to be fair, most people I speak to are very eager to learn the 'correct' way to pronounce things! Unless it's just an excuse to hear an English girl talk some more?

I am pleased you try and educate these ex Colonials into the proper (British) way of doing things. Bastardised it might be but they still speak ENGLISH. (their version of it, anyway.)

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Mar 11, 2005 7:32:41 PM

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 3993, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2003; Reply to: dreamcar

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dreamcar said:
but they still speak ENGLISH. (their version of it, anyway.)

Yo dawg!

'sup?

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Mar 11, 2005 7:48:45 PM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: W8MM

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woof woof

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Mar 11, 2005 7:51:39 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21148, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: dreamcar

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dreamcar said:
I am pleased you try and educate these ex Colonials into the proper (British) way of doing things. Bastardised it might be but they still speak ENGLISH. (their version of it, anyway.)

OK, lets talk cockney accent then, my first two years of college were in London and I, with my mid-west american accent (no spanish accent), could not get understood over the phone to order a pizza or understand what the cab drivers said even if my life depended on it! WTF, I though they spoke english in London before I got there?!

But don't worry

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Mar 12, 2005 9:13:01 PM

CharlesL: Newbie; Loc: Hants, UK; Posts: 48, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 16, 2005; Reply to: girlracer

Re: Bored.. so a question..

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girlracer said:
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JZ said:
wow, a lesson on the English Language from a Yank. There's something you don't see everyday.

Try being English and living in Texas! Actually to be fair, most people I speak to are very eager to learn the 'correct' way to pronounce things! Unless it's just an excuse to hear an English girl talk some more?

Probably just an excuse - or is it surprise at finding someone not speaking Mexican

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