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Jul 22, 2016 5:18:04 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: Adam2S

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Adam2S:
I was talking to Rolls salesman last week about how had a customer who had asked him to source him a 991R. He said the best price he had been able to buy one for was £480k. I don't believe he had any reason to make that up and given GT3RS were readily changing hands in the UK when first released for £275+ it would seem within the realm of possibility. However £1M? I don't know about that - its a huge leap of faith if you ask me and could just be that the owner of Magnitude Finance (who was interviewed for the article) owns one!

For whatever reason however, the UK market seems to be a even more bonkers on these types of cars than the rest of the world. If the brexitmongers are right then there is going to some heavily burnt fingers as and when the market corrects.

Keep in mind that the top end, particularly, of the UK market doesn't by any means consist only of UK citizens, and those people are too mobile to worry about Brexit.

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Jul 22, 2016 5:51:48 PM

DaveC: Veteran; Loc: FL, USA , United States; Posts: 1068, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 16, 2005; Reply to: fritz

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I read that someone is asking 1 million pounds for an R. I would certainly have been a customer for an R at list, as with so many others, but is this car really that desirable? The psychology that drives such a market completely escapes my comprehension. Assuming I had that sort of coin for a car, the R would not be my first choice for any of a number of reasons. Cars as a passion to be sure, but this sort of mania I find bizarre.

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Jul 22, 2016 10:44:58 PM

alexalex88: Co-Pilot; Loc: Galicia , Spain; Posts: 198, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 16, 2012; Reply to: DaveC

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The asking prices for the R are absurd. It's a car with high production numbers compared to other limited editions from Porsche and technically and performance wise it's not on another level.

A premium? Sure. 4x sticker? No way.

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Jul 22, 2016 10:53:51 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: alexalex88

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Because people are only seeing the $ sign and imagining the money they can make on one.

Most wanted it for the $, not for the love of the car.

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Jul 22, 2016 11:39:13 PM

absent: Pilot; Loc: Illinois , United States; Posts: 365, Gallery; Registered on: May 6, 2012; Reply to: Whoopsy

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Whoopsy:
Because people are only seeing the $ sign and imagining the money they can make on one.

Most wanted it for the $, not for the love of the car.

If they really bring the next GT3 with manual, those R premium will cease to exist.

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Jul 23, 2016 12:24:31 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: absent

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It's not IF, the next GT3 WILL have a manual. People knows that for a long time already.

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Jul 23, 2016 4:07:17 AM

absent: Pilot; Loc: Illinois , United States; Posts: 365, Gallery; Registered on: May 6, 2012; Reply to: Whoopsy

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Fabulous!

Can't have the R so GT3 will fit the bill. Smiley

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Jul 23, 2016 5:30:25 AM

M3ike: Pilot; Loc: Wil, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 316, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 14, 2007; Reply to: Kobalt

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Yes, for the Sportscup, just pass by

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Jul 23, 2016 6:30:26 AM

Kobalt: Expert; Loc: Europe , Sweden; Posts: 1819, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 18, 2015; Reply to: M3ike

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M3ike:
Yes, for the Sportscup, just pass by

Smiley

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Jul 23, 2016 8:29:43 AM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: RC

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RC:
Adam2S:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche-911-r-prices-rise-almost-%C2%A31million

I have heard tales of them changing hands for up to £500k but this is just insane!

If true, maybe I should have gotten "mine"...I start to regret it. 500k is just insane.

It was a mistake anyways. The car was easy money on the street. Even if it only gives you 10 or 20k on top. Also - you buy the way for the upcoming specials. Once you made it on the list things are getting easier!

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Jul 24, 2016 2:27:40 AM

mkultra: Junior; Loc: Chicago, IL USA; Posts: 66, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 20, 2004; Reply to: absent

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absent:
Whoopsy:
Because people are only seeing the $ sign and imagining the money they can make on one.

Most wanted it for the $, not for the love of the car.

If they really bring the next GT3 with manual, those R premium will cease to exist.

If I can remove the ugly wing, then bingo, I have myself a R!

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Jul 24, 2016 6:15:00 AM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: mkultra

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mkultra:
absent:
Whoopsy:
Because people are only seeing the $ sign and imagining the money they can make on one.

Most wanted it for the $, not for the love of the car.

If they really bring the next GT3 with manual, those R premium will cease to exist.

If I can remove the ugly wing, then bingo, I have myself a R!

Actually having the PDK is the huge advantage over an R!

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Jul 24, 2016 11:52:59 AM

absent: Pilot; Loc: Illinois , United States; Posts: 365, Gallery; Registered on: May 6, 2012; Reply to: Lars997

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Of course it is.

I track from time to time but I am not a track rat and don't care about improving my time by yet another 0.01 second per lap.

I simply enjoy having a performance car with a proper manual much more then the best auto transmission on the market (and that's what PDK essentially is anyway)

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Jul 24, 2016 8:41:53 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12585, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: absent

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absent:
I track from time to time but I am not a track rat and don't care about improving my time by yet another 0.01 second per lap.

I do care about that and it's much more fun to do that with a manual too.

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16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

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Jul 24, 2016 9:17:49 PM

Kobalt: Expert; Loc: Europe , Sweden; Posts: 1819, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 18, 2015; Reply to: M3ike

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M3ike:
Yes, for the Sportscup, just pass by

Failed: The guards didn't want to let me in...

I hope you got your autograph!

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Aug 1, 2016 2:43:48 PM

DJM48: Expert; Loc: Australia , Australia; Posts: 1718, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2015; Reply to: Kobalt

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New 911R thread from Dante on RL

http://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r/946587-my-991r.html

Beautiful pics of his new car. Scenery in the background not too shabby either.

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Aug 1, 2016 3:18:52 PM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: DJM48

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Thanks for the link!

A beautiful car no doubt - but I can't help myself, for me this car doesnt give the WOW factor as the GT3 RS does. Especially those front front fenders are missing big time. Also - the rims need to be that carbon color. Black LED lights are doing also hell of a difference. If I could choose I would always take the GT3 RS - even if I would get them for free and the value of the R might be triple!

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Aug 1, 2016 3:47:43 PM

4trac: Expert; Loc: SK , Canada; Posts: 1920, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 6, 2006; Reply to: Lars997

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Lars997:
Thanks for the link!

A beautiful car no doubt - but I can't help myself, for me this car doesnt give the WOW factor as the GT3 RS does. Especially those front front fenders are missing big time. Also - the rims need to be that carbon color. Black LED lights are doing also hell of a difference. If I could choose I would always take the GT3 RS - even if I would get them for free and the value of the R might be triple!

Ah, Lars, you obviously have no future as a car speculator - merely an enthusiast and skilled driver.... Smiley

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Aug 1, 2016 8:33:48 PM

RS3.8: Newbie; Loc: ON, CANADA; Posts: 39, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 18, 2005; Reply to: Whoopsy

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Whoopsy:
Because people are only seeing the $ sign and imagining the money they can make on one.

Most wanted it for the $, not for the love of the car.

Are you going with black for your 911R order? Saw a new Cayman in black and the Porsche paint looks excellent on his car. He got a late 2016 built in April.

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Aug 1, 2016 9:53:58 PM

mcdelaug: Expert; Loc: Fort Worth, Texas , United States; Posts: 1912, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 3, 2004; Reply to: 4trac

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Hehehehe, that's why he is on rennteam and not Fchat

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Aug 1, 2016 11:09:23 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: RS3.8

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

RS3.8:
Whoopsy:
Because people are only seeing the $ sign and imagining the money they can make on one.

Most wanted it for the $, not for the love of the car.

Are you going with black for your 911R order? Saw a new Cayman in black and the Porsche paint looks excellent on his car. He got a late 2016 built in April.

Yes it will be black. Smiley

Had to settle for Porsche flat black. Had I gotten PTS I would have asked for Nero Daytona from the Ferrari range. That gold hue is unreal under the sun.

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Aug 2, 2016 7:25:35 AM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: Whoopsy

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@4trac: my old problem - I'm too emotional smiley

@Whoopsy: Congrats - black will look great!

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Aug 2, 2016 8:48:10 AM

Conny997: Expert; Loc: Munich , Germany; Posts: 1682, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 1, 2006; Reply to: DJM48

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DJM48:
New 911R thread from Dante on RL

http://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r/946587-my-991r.html

Beautiful pics of his new car. Scenery in the background not too shabby either.

100% agree. Nice location and nice car. Particularly in this surrounding I like the R. It's understated and exclusive at the same time. kiss

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Kind regards, Conny

Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016) BMW 740xDrive (2016)

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Aug 2, 2016 6:15:33 PM

lukestern: Expert; Loc: Somewhere , United Kingdom; Posts: 1377, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 15, 2005; Reply to: Conny997

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Good review by Autoblog. English subtitles available!

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Aug 2, 2016 7:07:41 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12585, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: lukestern

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Very nice!

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16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

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Aug 2, 2016 8:02:08 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21148, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: lukestern

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Lukas:
Good review by Autoblog. English subtitles available!

Thank you for sharing Lukas Smiley that was a fantastic review, or should I say fantastic reviewer! I agree and relate with every single word he said from the first second to the last, every one. Bravo.

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Aug 2, 2016 10:38:24 PM

RS3.8: Newbie; Loc: ON, CANADA; Posts: 39, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 18, 2005; Reply to: Whoopsy

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Black it is then, thanks for your reply! PTS Nero Daytona would have given away the plot but now everyone will think it's just a 3 year old Porsche 911. Ironic that a German orders British Racing Green and supposedly all the UK customers were denied PTS colors on their orders. I didn't realize the 911R has a higher compression motor to for this special ride.

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Aug 3, 2016 2:33:03 AM

absent: Pilot; Loc: Illinois , United States; Posts: 365, Gallery; Registered on: May 6, 2012; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Carlos from Spain:
Lukas:
Good review by Autoblog. English subtitles available!

Thank you for sharing Lukas that was a fantastic review, or should I say fantastic reviewer! I agree and relate with every single word he said from the first second to the last, every one. Bravo.

Great review and could not agree more with the conclusion.

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Aug 3, 2016 3:47:36 AM

DJM48: Expert; Loc: Australia , Australia; Posts: 1718, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2015; Reply to: absent

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Thank you for sharing. Love the camera angle and the microphone next to the exhaust. indecision

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Aug 3, 2016 9:00:44 PM

otisdog: Junior; Loc: Sierra Madre, California , United States; Posts: 51, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 1, 2008; Reply to: DJM48

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Dude sure drives a lot with no hands on the wheel...

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