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    Re: Warning to porsche's under warranty!!!

    There has to be more to the story. If this warranty denial is purely because of an owner participating and winning autocross's then anyone would be stupid to get involved in future events based on this info. Where is this guy and why is the info always second hand? Does he have the minutes from the arbitration posted anywhere? If the warranty denial is exactly as this has been explained, I'd be out there letting the P-world know about this story.

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    SrfCity said:
    There has to be more to the story. If this warranty denial is purely because of an owner participating and winning autocross's then anyone would be stupid to get involved in future events based on this info. Where is this guy and why is the info always second hand? Does he have the minutes from the arbitration posted anywhere? If the warranty denial is exactly as this has been explained, I'd be out there letting the P-world know about this story.



    The guy is in our local PCA club. I've been talking to his friend who attended the arb hearing (Sean, the victim, is out of town). His car has smoked since it was almost new - well before he ever took it autocrossing. It had been to the dealership well before the first autocross for this smoking, but he was told was "normal". Hey, I don't find that response hard to believe at all given my Cayenne experiences to date. Apparently the arbitraition guy was a complete moron when it came to how cars work. Porsche overwhelmed him with technical talk and apparently that was enough. Also, the car had one low RPM type 2 overrev logged on the ECU which helped Porsche's case (despite their failure to even say whether it happened before that first smoking visit to the dealer). However, the car is also in need of it's second RMS replacement in a year.

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    Ben, I'm on your side, but Sean needs to tell the whole story himself, there has got to be more. Initially, we were told the guy was trying to get a buy back, not just warranty claim BS, and Porsches point was the guy deserves a new motor not a new car, afterall he openly competed in motorsports events,'autocross'. There has got to be more, we need to hear BOTH sides.
    Chris

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    C4S Surgeon said:
    Ben, I'm on your side, but Sean needs to tell the whole story himself, there has got to be more. Initially, we were told the guy was trying to get a buy back, not just warranty claim BS, and Porsches point was the guy deserves a new motor not a new car, afterall he openly competed in motorsports events,'autocross'. There has got to be more, we need to hear BOTH sides.
    Chris



    That's not true Chris. Porsche NEVER offered to do anything to fix the smoking all the while claiming it was "normal". He was therefore FORCED to go the lemon route. He would never have done that if they had just fixed his car. Further, he never expected a one year old car to be bought back until they refused to fix it. I'm sure Sean will weigh in for many years to come after he ditches the Porsche for an Fcar.

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    I will try to get sean to give his story once he has cooled down....

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    This needs to be documented and sent to the PCA and POA. I also wonder how Porsche can resell the PDE cars and Cayennes they use at the Alabama track reportedly through dealers with warranty. They have two autocross courses there, one dry and one wet, as well as the race track.

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    Seth said:
    This needs to be documented and sent to the PCA and POA. I also wonder how Porsche can resell the PDE cars and Cayennes they use at the Alabama track reportedly through dealers with warranty. They have two autocross courses there, one dry and one wet, as well as the race track.



    Yep, those cars are NOTHING BUT driven hard from the day they are born. Incidentally, I've been there driving cars that didn't even have the recommended break in miles!

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    The car I drove down there had 925mi on the clock, when you sat in and drove that car, seemed like it had 40,000mi on it, def run hard and put up wet.
    As far as Sean's car goes, none but a few of us really know the details and there is a lot of misinformation out there, when he cools off he should tell the whole story.
    Still love that cgt of yours, I saw one at the dealer being prepped for the customer, of course I took the liberty of sitting inside, damn fine car! Funny, they were installing the shifter and various knobs trying to decifer the german instructions, kind of comical to watch. They said they are shipped like that on purpose, wonder why? Maybe so nobody tries to drive it!

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    FWIW, did you know Sean is on his 3rd failed RMS in a year? They'll fix this one if he signs a document saying he won't abuse the car anymore. So, if he just admits in writing to abuse, no problem.

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    That, I wouldn't sign, cheaper to fork up the 800$ to fix the RMS. Did he have an atty at this session, or is that not allowed, don't know?

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    I'm happy to report after further investigation into this matter, there were extenuating circumstances (which i won't discuss) which should allow us all to ignore this incident rather than consider it something to expect from porsche.

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    Thanks for the update. Always two sides to a story.

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    Good to hear, and good job.

     
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