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11-feb-2005 17.04.25

TEE: Veteran; Loc: Germany , Germania; Posts: 929, Gallery; Registrato dal: 5-feb-2003

Can I leaglly prevent Porsche from Downloading the ECU?

Assuming I have a warranty claim, can I prevent Porsche or any OEM for that matter from downloading data from the ECU. For sure they would need my consent as it is my car now. What is peoples view on this?

Is there a clause in the warranty terms that stipultes that they have the right or otherwise the guarantee collapses?

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11-feb-2005 17.37.03

Stephen: Co-Pilot; Loc: Dallas, TX; Posts: 200, Gallery; Registrato dal: 30-giu-2003; In risposta a: TEE

Absolutely!!!!!!!! Don't follow through on the claim...

and PAY for somebody else to fix your problem. But I am sure they would have to download data too. Any manufacturer has a right to the information in order to accurately diagnose and repair your problem. They also have the right to protect themselves from fraudulent claims. If you chip your car, why should they be responsible for damage that may be resultant?

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11-feb-2005 18.41.32

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , Stati Uniti; Posts: 3998, Gallery; Registrato dal: 8-ago-2003; In risposta a: TEE

Re: Can I leaglly prevent Porsche from Downloading the ECU?

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TEE1 said:
Is there a clause in the warranty terms that stipultes that they have the right or otherwise the guarantee collapses?

Are you asking if there is a legal way to be dishonest?

Are you asking if one is allowed to hide relevant facts from discovery by one party to an agreement?

Think about it. Why should an agreement be enforceable if one of the parties were allowed to withhold important facts related to the agreement?

If you've put your vehicle to a use outside of the "usual and customary" service warranteed by the manufacturer, who's responsibility it it? I think it is yours and not the manufacturer's.

ECU memories are to Porsches as security cameras are to convenience stores. Without either, how could important facts be beyond "creative" dispute?

"Gosh, ... I have no idea how the engine could have been turning at 12,000 rpm. The car just started making all kinds of bad noises and then started to smoke, ... just before it quit. There must have been a manufacturing defect!"

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12-feb-2005 3.05.39

rss996: Junior; Loc: Calif; Posts: 84, Gallery; Registrato dal: 17-ott-2004; In risposta a: W8MM

Re: Can I leaglly prevent Porsche from Downloading the ECU?

HAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!

Look at my post on 997 board under warranty warning!

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13-feb-2005 21.50.33

Eric (Plug Guy): Senior; Loc:; Posts: 622, Gallery; Registrato dal: 6-set-2002; In risposta a: rss996

Re: Can I leaglly prevent Porsche from Downloading the ECU?

Nice work Mike. I agree.

I know a few authorized Porsche dealers who are chipping, and offering a variety of aftermarket gizmos for those who want them.

The caveat? Voids your factory warranty. Only engine warranty would be that offered by the provider of the offending parts being added, if any.

And no, I'm not slamming the aftermarket guys - I think it's a huge market and plenty of demand for high quality aftermarket 'enhancements' but buyer beware - Porsche won't cover you.

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