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    Feb 25, 2021 3:52:16 PM

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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    bluelines:
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    Also seems to me that it’s just the standard PDK from the normal range, not a PDK-S as they fit to GT3/RS?

    Yes, but isn't PDK-S just a software update mixed with marketing waffle? *hiding* Smiley

    It's regular PDK with 7th gear made a little shorter (but top speed still in 6th).

    Wow! Smiley 
     

    I thought it also got a different software with more “aggressive” shifting?

    That's possible too...


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    Feb 25, 2021 3:58:24 PM

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    Grant:

    That's possible too...

    So to sum it up, sounds more like PDK-s than PDK-S to me Smiley


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    Mar 10, 2021 8:13:47 AM

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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

     Ok, ok, but the GT4 is still a damn fine machine for the money. 

     

    but for you wich is the best chose today? 981gt4 saving 15/20 k or second hand 718 gt4??? 

    Mar 10, 2021 12:45:36 PM

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    981 GT4 hands down. There is no substitute. The 718 GT4 in direct comparison is a dull machine.

    Mar 10, 2021 12:46:15 PM

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    albygt4:

     Ok, ok, but the GT4 is still a damn fine machine for the money. 

     

    but for you wich is the best chose today? 981gt4 saving 15/20 k or second hand 718 gt4??? 

    I can only recommend to drive both and decide...Smiley

    Mar 10, 2021 2:30:09 PM

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    albygt4:

    but for you wich is the best chose today? 981gt4 saving 15/20 k or second hand 718 gt4??? 

    I made the same choice and went for the 981. It is less refined and louder Smiley

    But as already mentioned, best to drive both and compare.


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    Mar 26, 2021 2:52:47 PM

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    Seems there is a stop sale/recall on some 718 GT4 cars as there is faulty connecting bolt that can cause engine damage. Looks like it only affects ~200 cars. PCNA is calling customers who have taken delivery directly and will replace the affected engines. 

    Mar 26, 2021 5:26:42 PM

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    ..............Porsche 911(991.2) GT2 RS: 1:24.88 video
    ..............Porsche 911(991.2) GT3 RS: 1:26.24 video
    ...............Porsche Panamera Turbo S: 1:31.51 video
    Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 (manual): 1:32:24 video
    ......................Porsche Taycan Turbo S: 1:33.88 video

    Mar 26, 2021 5:55:35 PM

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    Thanks for posting all the comparisons!

    Interesting that they didn't make the GT4 lap with the PDK version.--

     

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    Mar 26, 2021 7:07:27 PM

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    Grant:

    Thanks for posting all the comparisons!

    Interesting that they didn't make the GT4 lap with the PDK version.--

     

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    How much faster with PDK?Smiley

    Mar 26, 2021 7:55:56 PM

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    Turbo4ever:
    Grant:

    Thanks for posting all the comparisons!

    Interesting that they didn't make the GT4 lap with the PDK version.--

     

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    How much faster with PDK?Smiley

    I am actually wondering if they didn’t choose the faster version Smiley

    There has never been an official lap with PDK.  Either it’s slow and they are embarrassed to show a time or it’s fast and they want to make sure they leave enough room for the GT4 RS to be impressive.


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    Mar 26, 2021 8:32:07 PM

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    angry


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    Mar 27, 2021 3:54:58 PM

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    Grant:
    Turbo4ever:
    Grant:

    Thanks for posting all the comparisons!

    Interesting that they didn't make the GT4 lap with the PDK version.--

     

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    How much faster with PDK?Smiley

    I am actually wondering if they didn’t choose the faster version Smiley

    There has never been an official lap with PDK.  Either it’s slow and they are embarrassed to show a time or it’s fast and they want to make sure they leave enough room for the GT4 RS to be impressive.

    +1 Smiley

    Mar 28, 2021 9:35:04 AM

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    Sportauto compared the two on the Hockenheimring. Verdict, gearing more suitable for the track and 25 additional kg of weight on the PDK, yet .1 seconds slower. Better acceleration to 100 kph yet slower to 200 (as manufacturer’s specs suggest as well). Initial assumption from the magazine was lack of power yet the car was checked back at Porsche and deemed perfectly fine.

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    Mar 28, 2021 1:03:30 PM

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    Great info! kiss

    But hard to believe pdk is slower on track, RS is the way to go for PDK's fans

    Apr 3, 2021 1:49:22 PM

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    The canyon slammer! smiley

    The road at Col du Pillon, from Gstaad to Montreux. Happy I still have the winter tires on angry


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    Apr 3, 2021 4:20:24 PM

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    Ui, that is a clean car ... or just your photo mastering skills... ? Anyway, looks niiiiiiice Smiley

    Apr 4, 2021 9:52:11 AM

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    https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/test/porsche-718-cayman-gt4-bremsentest/

    Interesting findings about 718 GT4 brakes

    Apr 4, 2021 11:31:32 AM

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    Die Benchmark. Love how much English makes into German. How do they decide the Der, Die, Das for Benchmark?  Interesting stuff and of course it’s capitalized. Personally I would have said Der Benchmark. Lol 

    Apr 7, 2021 2:00:23 PM

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    Porsche 718 Cayman GT4(manual)(Cup 2): 1:12.6
    .........................BMW M4 Competition(Cup 2): 1:13.3(+0.7s)

    Apr 8, 2021 10:32:36 AM

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    Leawood911:

    Die Benchmark. Love how much English makes into German. How do they decide the Der, Die, Das for Benchmark?  Interesting stuff and of course it’s capitalized. Personally I would have said Der Benchmark. Lol 

    Der is correct. Smiley Smiley

    Die would be permissible as well but only in a certain sense (as in "at a certain level").


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    Apr 9, 2021 11:32:30 AM

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    What will happen with next 718 generation at the end? Full electric? 6 cyl?

    Apr 9, 2021 11:43:08 AM

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    Enzo II:

    What will happen with next 718 generation at the end? Full electric? 6 cyl?

    EU has accepted a new compromise regarding Euro 7 emissions certification, meaning that it isn't game over (yet) for ICE cars. This could mean that some car companies will extend the lifetime of their ICE models.


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    Apr 9, 2021 12:48:54 PM

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    I still love my GT4, a great driver's car. However, I do not see me using it probably over the next few years because my first child is now a few months old and a second one will certainly follow sometime. I am thinking of selling the car and buying something which is more user friendly, i.e., I want to be able to take my daughter with me which is not possible in the GT4 due to the full bucket seats. Ideally, the replacement should be fun, have a manual transmission and most probably rear wheel drive. What would you recommend?

    My current ideas are: BMW M2 Competition, Alfa Romeo Giulia QV or Yaris GR.

    Apr 9, 2021 12:57:58 PM

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    Bmw M2 CS manual

    Apr 9, 2021 1:13:19 PM

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    Josef:

    I still love my GT4, a great driver's car. However, I do not see me using it probably over the next few years because my first child is now a few months old and a second one will certainly follow sometime. I am thinking of selling the car and buying something which is more user friendly, i.e., I want to be able to take my daughter with me which is not possible in the GT4 due to the full bucket seats. Ideally, the replacement should be fun, have a manual transmission and most probably rear wheel drive. What would you recommend?

    My current ideas are: BMW M2 Competition, Alfa Romeo Giulia QV or Yaris GR.

    I had bucket seats in my 996 Turbo RS-Tuning, child seat fit perfectly and daughter loved it. Smiley

    With two kids, things get more complicated. Either get a real family car and keep the GT4 or get the Giulia QV. The BMW and Yaris are too small, only compromises.


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    Tested the Yaris GR, great car but rear seats are a big no no. 911 and M2 are way more ‘child seat friendly’.


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    Tested the Yaris GR, great car but rear seats are a big no no. 911 and M2 are way more ‘child seat friendly’.

    Can hardly expect them to be anything more than 'meh' given the size of the car obv... Useful if you have a baby/young child, otherwise just as a shelf.


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    Josef:

    I still love my GT4, a great driver's car. However, I do not see me using it probably over the next few years because my first child is now a few months old and a second one will certainly follow sometime. I am thinking of selling the car and buying something which is more user friendly, i.e., I want to be able to take my daughter with me which is not possible in the GT4 due to the full bucket seats. Ideally, the replacement should be fun, have a manual transmission and most probably rear wheel drive. What would you recommend?

    My current ideas are: BMW M2 Competition, Alfa Romeo Giulia QV or Yaris GR.

    My boys are coming with me in the GT4. The Cybex seats which they had since 1 year old fits perfect in the bucket seat. No need to sell that GT4. I made that mistake and look what happened indecision


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    Apr 10, 2021 1:32:59 PM

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    Great Car, my bro picked one up recently and I drive it any chance I get. He is traveling now so it’s parked at mine :);)

    Will get cyprus plates next week:)

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