CloseGnil:RC:How about no wing at all?!
No 911 is without a wing since the 964
Not a fan of wings and this comes from someone who has a huuuugee one. 
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Apr 28, 2020 3:57:08 PM
Agree on that, no fixed wing at all (redefined deployable spoiler would be a nice touch though) and duck tail as an option for those who want this intermediate stealth look. Side rant: I've never understood P's not letting their customers choose certain options (painted brake calipers, PDK transmission in the last GT3 Touring, etc.) specially when they're willing to pay for them, but hey, VW group is doing quite well so they'd know better.
Also not convinced with the split front, for me it ruins the overall look of the car. Otherwise this would've been the best P product (aesthetically (I wasn't too much into the 991 because of the headlights) + performance + under-the-radar) since the 993 (997 is the best modern box, perfect dimensions, but they didn't have something like this in their line up by then).
Apr 29, 2020 2:45:09 PM
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Apr 29, 2020 5:52:32 PM
bvineyards:Just pull the particulate filter off?
That's not as straightforward as taking cats out apparently. Engine management, pressure, ... is much more influenced by it, according to the guys at Dundon.
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DJM48:Apologies if already posted.
GT3 testing at Monza
Huge. Like a Panamera with a fixed wing 
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Gnil:All so quiet ..... the GT3 and GT4 RS does not make much more noise then the Taycan
And it won't change...this is Porsche "policy" now.
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RC:Gnil:All so quiet ..... the GT3 and GT4 RS does not make much more noise then the Taycan
And it won't change...this is Porsche "policy" now.
I would think it is more government regulation than manufacturer policy.
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2018 Audi S6 Avant | Ibis White
bluelines:RC:Gnil:All so quiet ..... the GT3 and GT4 RS does not make much more noise then the Taycan
And it won't change...this is Porsche "policy" now.
I would think it is more government regulation than manufacturer policy.
There are certain ways around it, making cars sound "OK" rather than quiet but there has been a certain decision and they think it is the right thing to do, especially in view of future noise regulations. Bottom line is: They seem to think that most customers appreciate the quieter exhausts, also in view of the current (well, before the corona crisis) noise pollution discussion in the media here.
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Porker:bvineyards:Just pull the particulate filter off?
That's not as straightforward as taking cats out apparently. Engine management, pressure, ... is much more influenced by it, according to the guys at Dundon.
Correct, but the Dundon guys claim that they are able to keep the filter and still improve sound and power a bunch. Apparently, the filter is not nearly as restrictive as some of the ancillary plumbing...
18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
Grant:Porker:bvineyards:Just pull the particulate filter off?
That's not as straightforward as taking cats out apparently. Engine management, pressure, ... is much more influenced by it, according to the guys at Dundon.
Correct, but the Dundon guys claim that they are able to keep the filter and still improve sound and power a bunch. Apparently, the filter is not nearly as restrictive as some of the ancillary plumbing...
Dundon guys took out the North American baffles on Michael's Speedster when they did his exhaust.
Oh btw, happy birthday Grant!!
Whoopsy:Grant:Porker:bvineyards:Just pull the particulate filter off?
That's not as straightforward as taking cats out apparently. Engine management, pressure, ... is much more influenced by it, according to the guys at Dundon.
Correct, but the Dundon guys claim that they are able to keep the filter and still improve sound and power a bunch. Apparently, the filter is not nearly as restrictive as some of the ancillary plumbing...
Dundon guys took out the North American baffles on Michael's Speedster when they did his exhaust.
Oh btw, happy birthday Grant!!
Thanks, Nick!
18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
May 18, 2020 3:12:09 PM
May 18, 2020 3:21:45 PM
Makes me think of Dearth Nadir (https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Dearth_Nadir)...
DuckieRS:Makes me think of Dearth Nadir (https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Dearth_Nadir)...
So true! 
We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
DuckieRS:Makes me think of Dearth Nadir (https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Dearth_Nadir)...
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May 19, 2020 9:56:39 PM
This guy does a great job with his videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyoV-GIEJKA
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May 21, 2020 12:17:41 PM
Porsche 992 GT3 at the Nürburgring... (Autocar video)
Prototypes for Stuttgart's track-ready 911 show off naturally aspirated flat-six wail in latest video...
Porsche has been testing the upcoming 992-generation 911 GT3 at the Nürburgring for some time now, and now a video of the track-focused model reveals its flat-six soundtrack.
The collection of clips (below) of a prototype undergoing track development at speed confirms what we new already: that the next GT3 will retain the naturally-aspirated 'boxer' engine loved by enthusiasts.
Although it's hard to be sure, it sounds like the 992 GT3 hasn't lost any of the outgoing model's volume and tone, despite the addition of a petrol particulate filter and other emissions-reducing tech.
Telltale GT3 styling cues are plain to see, including the large fixed rear wing, splitter and diffuser, and the classic GT3 centre-locking wheels. This latest prototype has shed much of its pre-production camouflage, revealing a pair of sizeable air intakes in the bonnet, a bespoke front splitter with a wide lower grille and a prominent rear diffuser.
Also seen at the end of the video is a GT3 minus the trademark wing, suggesting the sought-after Touring model will make a return.
Further details have yet to be revealed, but we do know the 911 Speedster’s heavily revised 4.0-litre flat-six engine will be carried over to future GT models as Porsche’s GT division persists with naturally aspirated engines.
GT boss Andreas Preuninger said: “We’ve invested in the future with this engine. I can’t comment on future projects but we would be stupid not to re-use this engine somewhere.
“Our philosophy in GT cars is to stay naturally aspirated. We want to keep that engine for the future and that’s why we’ve made such a tremendous effort to get the engine right without taking emotion and performance away.”
The Speedster, a swansong for the 991 generation of the 911 priced from £211,599, uses the same powertrain as the outgoing GT3 but receives a host of updates.
Chief among the updates, and in order to extend the regulatory life of this big-capacity direct-injection flat six, Porsche has fitted two sizeable petrol particulate filters – one integrated into the exhaust tract that exits each side of the block.
And yet owing to the use of thinner steel, nickel and soldering techniques rather than welding, the exhaust system now weighs 10kg less than before, despite the additional hardware. Power has also increased, from 493bhp to 503bhp, and continues to arrive at 8400rpm.
To achieve this with an engine that is not only cleaner but also suffers from an increase in exhaust back-pressure owing to the new filters is no mean feat.
The fuel-injection system now operates at 250 bar rather than 200 for improved propagation, and each of the engine’s six cylinders now gets a dedicated throttle body. The combined effect – but particularly due to the new throttle bodies – is even sharper throttle response, says Porsche.
Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQhWpYja--c
Autocar Link: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/video-watch-2021-porsche-911-gt3-nürburgring
May 21, 2020 1:56:14 PM
May 21, 2020 2:41:03 PM
Carlos from Spain:That wing is going to need a little getting used to IMO to put it lightly but it's a GT3 so as long as form follows function I'm OK with it.
It might be ok on a track, but in my opinion on the road that wing looks rather out of place. I much prefer to order a 992 GT3 with just the duck-tail or full GT3 Touring spec for the road...
May 21, 2020 2:55:26 PM
May 21, 2020 3:44:58 PM
steelested:I prey the touring has back seats as wifey insists for kids
Agreed. There are many, many GT3 Touring customers around the world that have been asking Andreas Preuninger to include an option for back seats... I expect it will be available as an option, as they do listen to existing customers!
May 21, 2020 5:24:42 PM
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