23-ene-2020 8:43:28
- the-missile
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23-ene-2020 8:43:28
gusmlt:My last car was a Mclaren 570s however an RS always intrigued me especially knowing that I shouldn't have the silly issues I came across in my Mc. Another point is me wanting to experience tracking the car which I have yet to do at the age of 40 !! believing that the RS should be the perfect machine. It might not look as exotic as other cars out there however from what I've read it should be amazing to drive plus 9k NA ;-)
GT3 RS is really a very good track car for amateurs and it can be modified to a higher purpose if you choose to.
Caution: Prices are/were declining, don't pay too much for one.
Personally, I would get one from an official Porsche dealer, even if it costs a little bit more. A must have is the Approved Warranty, it can save you from many bad surprises. If you buy from a private seller, make sure he has the Approved Warranty from Porsche or a remaining warranty period, depending on the age of the car.
Get a 991 GT3 RS, even the latest ones with particulate filter seem to be quite fast and "good".
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)
schmoell:GT3 RS OPF soundcheck (taken with an iPhone )
I see your Dyson, and raise you an RSR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npVpMU6cKQc&t=69s
That being said (I assume with age) I've decided not to go that route again with future cars. It sounds utterly fabulous, but the hassle on track and the negative reactions of neighbors after an early start-up etc... It's not worth it, it's fun, but I think I can live without.
1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3 / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport
I'm more on the "form follows function" side of things. If the sound doesn't serve a purpose, I don't care too much, not to mention all the hassle that comes with loud cars (as you pointed out). I posted that short clip because some were wondering how an OPF car sounds - it's the inevitable future I guess ...
schmoell:GT3 RS OPF soundcheck (taken with an iPhone )
If I were lucky to own/drive such a car, the OPF sound would have been a triviality.
"Porsche....and Nothing else matters"
A short hint for those tracking an OPF RS. It seems, that the exhaust system with the two huge OPFs is more prone to catching pick-up (pieces of rubber) from the track. This is no problem while driving (it seems), but the rubber will immediately catch fire after stopping the car; happened to me three times this week, but my team fixed it immediately. I'll likely add a mesh of some sort to the bottom.
insurance rates over here are close to alchemy. There are many factors that play a role like: who drives the car, km/year, how many contracts you already have with that company, got a garage for the car, where do you live, want to track the car, years without accidents and many many more. Overall you can insure an RS for half the price you mentioned or even less
schmoell:insurance rates over here are close to alchemy. There are many factors that play a role like: who drives the car, km/year, how many contracts you already have with that company, got a garage for the car, where do you live, want to track the car, years without accidents and many many more. Overall you can insure an RS for half the price you mentioned or even less
In Germany, you can negotiate insurance individually. My insurance just lowered my Huracan Performante insurance rate (full coverage, 1000 EUR deductible) from 3000 to 2800 per year. The driving history (how many cars and what kind of cars, no accidents) is the most important factor here and of course age.
Example: A guy I met at a car meet got himself a Performante and pays over 5000 EUR per year (same insurance). He is only 10 years younger than me (55) but never had an accident (he claims).
I also know a 31 year old Performante driver who pays a 10000 EUR per year insurance rate at Lloyd's I think. The reasons is simple: It was the only insurance he can get at his age, my insurance and many others in Germany simply refused to provide insurance for his car.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)
BjoernB:Wonder if they will do a recall for this - this is really stupid but true real world experience
I am actually surprised this happens since Porsche put a lot of work into adapting the particulate filters. It may be true what an engineer said about them: That problems will arise after a few years but I guess he was referring to some sort of clogging and not this kind of problem.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)
Has anyone tried the Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport RS tyre ? They have been developed only for the Porsche GT2 and GT3 .
I starter on my car with the Dunlop Race 2 . I liked it . Great grip . Smooth slides . Good enough when wet . Just needed correct pressures . It was much better then the previous Dunlop Race .
Now I have the Michelin Cup 2 N2 . Very happy with it , as always with Cups . Grip is similar or very slightly better to the Race 2 , but looses grip a bit more suddenly then the Race 2
I need new tires and I am wondering about those Goodyears RS or maybe the Goodyear R as this one is ok under wet conditions, not so sure the RS one can handle rain ....
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964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS
09-mar-2020 13:52:28
09-mar-2020 14:11:35
I asked my tire guy about the difference between the Dunlop Sport Maxx Race and the new Goodyear this morning, but don't have an answer yet; it's the same company after all. What I can say is that the Cup2R are amazing and quite close to slicks for the price of durability and not working in the wet. Well, they are more expensive also.
Thanks Kobalt for the link
Gnil:Has anyone tried the Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport RS tyre ? They have been developed only for the Porsche GT2 and GT3 .
I starter on my car with the Dunlop Race 2 . I liked it . Great grip . Smooth slides . Good enough when wet . Just needed correct pressures . It was much better then the previous Dunlop Race .
Now I have the Michelin Cup 2 N2 . Very happy with it , as always with Cups . Grip is similar or very slightly better to the Race 2 , but looses grip a bit more suddenly then the Race 2
I need new tires and I am wondering about those Goodyears RS or maybe the Goodyear R as this one is ok under wet conditions, not so sure the RS one can handle rain ....
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964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS
I've always had an unreasonable bias against Goodyear tires. Other than bias plies on vintage cars I've never met one I've liked. Dunlops on the other hand I"ve always enjoyed. Good grip and a nice amount of "gooeyness". As you said, smooth slides, easy break-away.
Past-President, Porsche Club of America - Upper Canada Region
Thanks for the link Kobalt , but that will take me a full day to watch
Schmoll : looking for the feedback of your tire guy .
Dave : I relaie that now . So if Goodyear it would have to be the Eagle SuperSport R ...
.... and as Mithras said it, I would probably also not trust it enough to try it out without a serious recommendation
964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS
Gnil:Has anyone tried the Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport RS tyre ? They have been developed only for the Porsche GT2 and GT3 .
I think only made for RS, right? Not in GT3 sizes, I think...
18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
09-mar-2020 15:42:10
Grant:Gnil:Has anyone tried the Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport RS tyre ? They have been developed only for the Porsche GT2 and GT3 .
I think only made for RS, right? Not in GT3 sizes, I think...
the GT3 is too fast already. let the RS guys have more grip to catch up
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991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)
Cayenne GTS 2014
09-mar-2020 16:14:57
the-missile:Grant:Gnil:Has anyone tried the Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport RS tyre ? They have been developed only for the Porsche GT2 and GT3 .
I think only made for RS, right? Not in GT3 sizes, I think...
the GT3 is too fast already. let the RS guys have more grip to catch up
Exactly only for the RS
. Key word is : catch up and then there is : pass and then : bye bye
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964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS
Gnil,
supersport RS is the race focused tire of the range - supersport r is the equivalent of sport maxx race 2.
supersport RS is an equivalent to the Michelin cup R but better ;-)
RS will be nice on track, but obviously with a race compound you will not expect miracles when wet. If I were you I would test the supersport R, and if you have spare wheels, a set of RS for track days.
rgds,
991.2 GT3 PDK Black on black
thierry:Gnil,
supersport RS is the race focused tire of the range - supersport r is the equivalent of sport maxx race 2.
supersport RS is an equivalent to the Michelin cup R but better ;-)
RS will be nice on track, but obviously with a race compound you will not expect miracles when wet. If I were you I would test the supersport R, and if you have spare wheels, a set of RS for track days.
rgds,
Thanks Thierry . I will not try the RS as I do long drives to and from the track so I need to be able to drive in very wet conditions .
Do you have experience with the supersport R ?
964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS
schmoell:just noticed, that Porsche has certified "Dunlop Sport Maxx Race" and "Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2" only; not even the Cup R. I wouldn't care too much though
I found all these with the N ( Porsche approved ) rating .
Also my RS had a recal last year to update the software in order to accept the Cup R tires . They also added a paper into the car's manuel about it .
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 325/30 ZR21 (108Y) XL Acoustic, N0
Dunlop Sport Maxx Race 2
325/30 ZR21 (108Y) XL N1
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 325/30 ZR21 (108Y) XL N2
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R 325/30 ZR21 108Y XL N0
Pirelli P Zero SC 325/30 ZR21 (108Y) XL N0
Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport RS
325/30 ZR21 (108Y) XL N0
964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS