Rossi:RC:KMM:I like the new design so much better. Yet, some aspects of it remind me of Audi's A7. Troubling.
Wait until you see the new interior...
This is not the real thing, Photoshop is your friend but very very close.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Jun 11, 2016 3:29:52 PM
Unveiling on June 28
http://www.carscoops.com/2016/06/new-porsche-panamera-to-be-unveiled-on.html
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Jun 11, 2016 3:34:36 PM
EnglishManInNY:Unveiling on June 28
http://www.carscoops.com/2016/06/new-porsche-panamera-to-be-unveiled-on.html
Already stated earlier in the thread. They should just let the damn thing out of the bag already!
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Jun 13, 2016 12:20:23 AM
Lukas:Panamera 4S. I really like the proportions. The Panamera has never been fotogenic, but this do look nice! 21" turbo wheels suits the car and the large panorama roof will be a nice updgrade! Like the Sport design mirrors also.
Here's it is in another color:
Oh, wait, that's an Audi S7. Kind of hard to tell them apart. Never had that problem with the current Panamera.
Jun 13, 2016 6:46:43 AM
Jun 13, 2016 8:35:18 AM
I'm right now driving my second Panamera Turbo S and have initially told my dealer to see to it that I'm first in line for the new TS version. Then I read what Aldo wrote about the new TS with down scaled engine (4,0l 550hp) and addition of hybrid (136 hp) with a total weight of 2.300 kg. A bit heavy, but I could still find it interesting, maybe...
But to be honest, the latest pictures is just showing what I would descibe as a overpriced Audi. Dosen't really get me going....
I'll wait and see what it looks like in real, but so far I'm not that optimistic, even if I still hope for the best
SciFrog:I hope the rear has camo, else it is horrible in these pics...
Rear and front lights are heavily camouflaged, the sideline is the real deal.
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Quite a nice profile, looks good in white as well. Hope the headlights are smaller without the camouflage.
I am already mentally configuring a white Turbo with two tone red black interior and panoramic roof.
Looking forward to seeing pics of the interior.
Thanks all
Well so far the old design looked much more interesting. Anyhow that's not what matters as long as don't don't allow 3 people to sit in the back, provide a sportier drive feel and drop massively the price of a normally optioned car...
The Tesla model S is killing that segment anyway
SciFrog:Well so far the old design looked much more interesting. Anyhow that's not what matters as long as don't don't allow 3 people to sit in the back, provide a sportier drive feel and drop massively the price of a normally optioned car...
The Tesla model S is killing that segment anyway
You can order the option for the 2+1 rear bench.
Sportier feeling in this class? Let me think who provides this? Mercedes S-class - no, BMW 7-series - no, Audi A8 - no, Tesla S - no - so what did you find drives sportier?
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On the segment of the turbo and turbo S, FF 612 Rapide, also the Bentley is probably close enough in term of emotions (not sportier, different).
On the lower segment? Cayenne and Macan and some Audis/Mercedes SUVs are close enough and much more practical and way cheaper, and the Tesla Model S is so innovative it doesn't matter if it is not as sporty with its massive torque. RC seems to say the RS6 is also better...
ALDO:SciFrog:Well so far the old design looked much more interesting. Anyhow that's not what matters as long as don't don't allow 3 people to sit in the back, provide a sportier drive feel and drop massively the price of a normally optioned car...
The Tesla model S is killing that segment anyway
You can order the option for the 2+1 rear bench.
Sportier feeling in this class? Let me think who provides this? Mercedes S-class - no, BMW 7-series - no, Audi A8 - no, Tesla S - no - so what did you find drives sportier?
I had the chance to test-drive the latest S8 Plus. It feels quite sporty, believe me. I don't know how fast this thing is on the track but it felt sportier than my previous Panamera Turbo S. Can't say much about the latest BMW 7series, haven't driven it yet. The latest Mercedes S63 AMG? Forget it, you're right...not sporty at all.
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SciFrog:On the segment of the turbo and turbo S, FF 612 Rapide, also the Bentley is probably close enough in term of emotions (not sportier, different).
On the lower segment? Cayenne and Macan and some Audis/Mercedes SUVs are close enough and much more practical and way cheaper, and the Tesla Model S is so innovative it doesn't matter if it is not as sporty with its massive torque. RC seems to say the RS6 is also better...
My question was sportier in the same class. A FF is not even in the same class, it is much more expensive and at the rear no way as an adult you can enjoy a long journey. Rapide is by far less sportier. Bentley flying spur is a real fat pig compared to Panamera. Tesla S has huge torque but also a very cheap interior and at the end a different car.
M6 gran coupé is smaller, RS6 or RS7 are both one class lower.
I am not talking about a better or sportier car. Just a car in the same class.
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RC:ALDO:SciFrog:Well so far the old design looked much more interesting. Anyhow that's not what matters as long as don't don't allow 3 people to sit in the back, provide a sportier drive feel and drop massively the price of a normally optioned car...
The Tesla model S is killing that segment anyway
You can order the option for the 2+1 rear bench.
Sportier feeling in this class? Let me think who provides this? Mercedes S-class - no, BMW 7-series - no, Audi A8 - no, Tesla S - no - so what did you find drives sportier?
I had the chance to test-drive the latest S8 Plus. It feels quite sporty, believe me. I don't know how fast this thing is on the track but it felt sportier than my previous Panamera Turbo S. Can't say much about the latest BMW 7series, haven't driven it yet. The latest Mercedes S63 AMG? Forget it, you're right...not sporty at all.
I have heard about unbelievable good track times for the new Panamera. I didn´t mention it here, because I could not believe it. I hope that I am wrong.
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Milanno:ALDO:M6 gran coupé is smaller, RS6 or RS7 are both one class lower.
Well, then Panamera has no competition
You are right - I mean I am right .
If you are searching for the sportiest car in the Panamera class (S, 7, A8, ..) then it is the Panamera. Again, I never said it is the best car in this class or any other class.
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