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Jun 2, 2016 7:26:40 PM

jamesdamanuk1: Pilot; Loc: uk , United Kingdom; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 28, 2006

Porsche experience day cars, would you buy one?

Hey guys i hope you are all very well and prospering!

I have a question and ill keep it as brief as i can, would you buy an ex experience day car (Silverstone) car?

Meant to be picking up my Cayman GTS tomorrow when a few hours ago i found a video of the very car being driven on the experience day with an online reviewer. The hole situation is a touch complicated and i wont bore people with the finer details but i wondered what peoples thoughts may be?

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Jun 2, 2016 7:49:19 PM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

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Should be ok - the cars are as good as any used car bought through a Porsche dealership, (I guess that's where you've sourced your car) at least you know the history whereas you've no idea how any other used car on their forecourt has been treated! And you still get the full two year used car warranty.

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Jun 2, 2016 7:53:19 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: dreamcar

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I would only do it with full warranty and attractive price (and fresh brakes and rubber, of course).

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Jun 2, 2016 7:58:33 PM

jamesdamanuk1: Pilot; Loc: uk , United Kingdom; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 28, 2006; Reply to: Grant

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Yes a main dealee absolutely. https://youtu.be/8r4zmSWhqD8 this is literally The car

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Jun 2, 2016 9:15:31 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21149, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

Re: Porsche experience day cars, would you buy one?

Personally, and this just my personal opinion, I wouldn't buy it. These car's that have "no owner" tend to be abused IMO from day one with 0Km, go through many hands, some that don't know how to drive, etc...... though I don't know if this car was used for track events which I was refering to or just that one time for the video, I would find that out I guess...

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Jun 2, 2016 9:49:22 PM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Carlos from Spain:
Personally, and this just my personal opinion, I wouldn't buy it. These car's that have "no owner" tend to be abused IMO from day one with 0Km, go through many hands, some that don't know how to drive, etc...... though I don't know if this car was used for track events which I was refering to or just that one time for the video, I would find that out I guess...

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I agree. I couldn't buy it, the abuse factor would tarnish my ownership and enjoyment..

Jmo... Smiley ...

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Jun 2, 2016 10:13:37 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: throt

Re: Porsche experience day cars, would you buy one?

Any misgivings about buying a demo model are understandable, but on the other hand these cars are now pretty bullet-proof, apart from wear-and-tear parts like brake discs/pads and tyres, which will surely either still be good due to low mileage or will have been replaced prior to sale.
If the price looks reasonable I'd be inclined to go for it, if it's on the high side I'd use the knowledge of the car's "history" to talk it down a bit.

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Jun 2, 2016 10:21:32 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Carlos from Spain:
Personally, and this just my personal opinion, I wouldn't buy it. These car's that have "no owner" tend to be abused IMO from day one with 0Km, go through many hands, some that don't know how to drive, etc...... though I don't know if this car was used for track events which I was refering to or just that one time for the video, I would find that out I guess...

Unless it's a manual, you really don't need to know how to drive it. Everything is controlled by the computers, it they are programmed not to do stuff wrong or poorly. Wear and tear items are a given, but I wouldn't expect any mechanical problems.

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Jun 3, 2016 5:05:07 AM

jamesdamanuk1: Pilot; Loc: uk , United Kingdom; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 28, 2006; Reply to: noone1

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The car is a manual lol well this morning is crunch time and i must makey decision and im still totally unsure as what to do. Im 50/50 at this stage, i wish id never watched that video now, ignorance is bliss at times lol

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Jun 3, 2016 5:58:35 AM

Moser: Senior; Loc: Larnaca , Cyprus; Posts: 535, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2006; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

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Even Porn Stars need some love too guys!

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Jun 3, 2016 6:24:07 AM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

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jamesdamanuk1:
The car is a manual lol well this morning is crunch time and i must makey decision and im still totally unsure as what to do. Im 50/50 at this stage, i wish id never watched that video now, ignorance is bliss at times lol

For what it's worth I can't stand that Shmee guy... Smiley There's eight Cayman GTS currently available in the Porsche GB network if you walk away from that one.. Smiley

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Jun 3, 2016 6:29:47 AM

jamesdamanuk1: Pilot; Loc: uk , United Kingdom; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 28, 2006; Reply to: dreamcar

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The issue being is this dealer is giving me a very keen deal on my M4 much better then anywhere else. They gave me the price before i looked at the gts. No clue what to do now stumped :-/

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Jun 3, 2016 6:35:13 AM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

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jamesdamanuk1:
The issue being is this dealer is giving me a very keen deal on my M4 much better then anywhere else. They gave me the price before i looked at the gts. No clue what to do now stumped :-/

Not keen on the M4? Great car apart from the engine sound methinks... Smiley

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Jun 3, 2016 6:39:33 AM

jamesdamanuk1: Pilot; Loc: uk , United Kingdom; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 28, 2006; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: Porsche experience day cars, would you buy one?

Actually i think it sounds ok if you give it the beans! Nothing wrong with the car but fancy getting back into a porsche, they also seem to be keeping a very good price as well which helps!

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Jun 3, 2016 7:25:35 AM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

Re: Porsche experience day cars, would you buy one?

jamesdamanuk1:
The issue being is this dealer is giving me a very keen deal on my M4 much better then anywhere else. They gave me the price before i looked at the gts. No clue what to do now stumped :-/

So the dealer has already compensated for the fact that the car has the "history" it does.

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Jun 3, 2016 7:56:57 AM

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Netherlands; Posts: 8054, Gallery; Registered on: May 3, 2004; Reply to: fritz

Re: Porsche experience day cars, would you buy one?

James, I think it depends on your own point of view. Obviously, the car has some "history" as Fritz mentioned.

If you are the type of guy that buys a new car every year, and the Cayman GTS is just one in a very long line of cars for you, I wouldn't bother too much about buying a former demo car.

If however the Cayman is your very first Porsche and something you worked long and hard for and you plan to cherish it and keep it for a long time, being proud every time you look at it... then I think I would pass on this car, as I can imagine this will always give you a nasty feeling in the back of your head.

On a sidenote; whát a fabulous car this Cayman GTS! Absolute beauty :-)

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Jun 3, 2016 8:50:26 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: Porsche experience day cars, would you buy one?

Carlos from Spain:
Personally, and this just my personal opinion, I wouldn't buy it. These car's that have "no owner" tend to be abused IMO from day one with 0Km, go through many hands, some that don't know how to drive, etc...... though I don't know if this car was used for track events which I was refering to or just that one time for the video, I would find that out I guess...

I agree. I would lease such a car though but I'm not sure I would buy it if I intend to keep it for a very long time.

Found a very nice Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder LP550-2(!) a couple of months ago, pretty rare car, at an attractive price (dealer was willing to negotiate further) but the car had a very serious accident before. Dealer claimed that car has been repaired properly according to Lamborghini specs but I'm afraid this is a no go for me. This may be a bad example but if I plan to keep a car for a long time (which is rare with me Smiley ), I want it to be perfect and without a doubt regarding reliability or future issues.

I agree with fritz though, the cars are pretty much bullet proof nowadays but if it has been abused for the first couple of thousands of kilometers, I would have a bad feeling about it. May be just me (or Carlos) though, don't know. Smiley

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Jun 3, 2016 8:51:05 AM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: fritz

Re: Porsche experience day cars, would you buy one?

fritz:
jamesdamanuk1:
The issue being is this dealer is giving me a very keen deal on my M4 much better then anywhere else. They gave me the price before i looked at the gts. No clue what to do now stumped :-/

So the dealer has already compensated for the fact that the car has the "history" it does.

Is that the car at Swindon? that's where we purchased our Boxster GTS. Great dealership, light years ahead of my awful local OPC (Bournemouth).

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Jun 3, 2016 8:53:09 AM

jamesdamanuk1: Pilot; Loc: uk , United Kingdom; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 28, 2006; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: Porsche experience day cars, would you buy one?

No its in leicester car has been taken down as they have my deposit. Yeh i suppose if i keep it no longer then 12/24 months and ita well in warrenty i suppose its Fairly safe?

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Jun 3, 2016 8:57:00 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

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jamesdamanuk1:
No its in leicester car has been taken down as they have my deposit. Yeh i suppose if i keep it no longer then 12/24 months and ita well in warrenty i suppose its Fairly safe?

I'd say yes.

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Jun 3, 2016 8:57:12 AM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

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jamesdamanuk1:
No its in leicester car has been taken down as they have my deposit. Yeh i suppose if i keep it no longer then 12/24 months and ita well in warrenty i suppose its Fairly safe?

OK, I guess you want a manual rather than PDK - there are three manual cars available (including the black one at Swindon) - fairly basic spec though) if you don't mind travelling to view... Smiley As I mentioned earlier you've no real idea how any used car has been looked after, - at least you know the provenance of that particular one. Smiley Might be worth checking brake pad / disc and tyre wear on that car before you sign the dotted.

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Jun 3, 2016 8:59:33 AM

jamesdamanuk1: Pilot; Loc: uk , United Kingdom; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 28, 2006; Reply to: dreamcar

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Yeh i think the manual really suits the GTS, had pdk and dct many times and fancy something....the cliche something more involving.

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Jun 3, 2016 9:02:28 AM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

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jamesdamanuk1:
Yeh i think the manual really suits the GTS, had pdk and dct many times and fancy something....the cliche something more involving.

I'd agree, although we have PDK which is great, Swindon's loan cars are base manual Boxsters and I enjoy the mechanical interaction that's missing with PDK. Smiley

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Jun 3, 2016 9:04:29 AM

jamesdamanuk1: Pilot; Loc: uk , United Kingdom; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 28, 2006; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: Porsche experience day cars, would you buy one?

Dont think i could do a norman S having now driven a GTS. And i cant really jump to a 911 as the cost is a lot more

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Jun 3, 2016 9:08:38 AM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

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jamesdamanuk1:
Dont think i could do a norman S having now driven a GTS. And i cant really jump to a 911 as the cost is a lot more

Went to our Boxster GTS from a Carrera S 997/2 PDK and I have to say I prefer the Boxster from most aspects. Not as quick, but I just prefer the mid engined feel. The 991 (wait to get flamed Smiley ) I found pretty dull, lovely car, beautifully put together, more refined and comfortable but less mechanical in character than the 997/2, less sports car, more GT somehow, The GTS would be different of course, but even used well beyond a price I could justify. Smiley

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Jun 3, 2016 9:14:57 AM

jamesdamanuk1: Pilot; Loc: uk , United Kingdom; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 28, 2006; Reply to: dreamcar

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Yeh £60ish is one thing but £90plus a Hole different level price wise and im not sure its worth £30 grand more lol

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Jun 3, 2016 11:24:26 AM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

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jamesdamanuk1:
Yeh £60ish is one thing but £90plus a Hole different level price wise and im not sure its worth £30 grand more lol

Off to the Yorkshire Dales tomorrow for a week, a regular haunt of ours, some great driving roads there really made for a car like ours, first time there with this car though.... Smiley

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Jun 3, 2016 12:14:15 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21149, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: RC

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RC:
jamesdamanuk1:
No its in leicester car has been taken down as they have my deposit. Yeh i suppose if i keep it no longer then 12/24 months and ita well in warrenty i suppose its Fairly safe?

I'd say yes.

In that case I would also say yes Smiley

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Jun 3, 2016 12:39:07 PM

jamesdamanuk1: Pilot; Loc: uk , United Kingdom; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 28, 2006; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: Porsche experience day cars, would you buy one?

Just had the rev test? Its level 3 and over 300 hours since the last over rev

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Jun 3, 2016 2:06:44 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

Re: Porsche experience day cars, would you buy one?

jamesdamanuk1:
Just had the rev test? Its level 3 and over 300 hours since the last over rev

How many over-revs at range 3?
How many total working hours?

I have only some old stuff available here but everything beyond range 1 and 2 isn't really OK.

However, range 3 usually only means that the driver was revving up into the rev limiter, not that he mis-shifted.

Range 4 and 5 would be a no-go, range 6 a total NOOOOO.

Stupid question: You want to buy the car from an official Porsche dealer, right? Does he give you the Approved Warranty for this car? If yes, I wouldn't worry. As far as I heard (not 100% sure though), cars with range 4,5 or 6 do not get the Approved Warranty.
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