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Oct 4, 2004 1:03:21 AM
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Re: what is this?
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lev said:
What so special about this car? Hmm, may be its the first car which looks like its going to cry
its a transparent attempt at 'netting a fathead' as we say in china.
hoping someone will see right past the lack of heritage/history/emotion that supercars require, and see only the pricetag, and thusly, associate that with the aformentioned musts.
or mabye some diehard collector who already has everything else will buy it.
or mabye its someone's answer (wrong!) to the Enzo, because Ferrari wouldn't sell them one, more than a few car companies have started under those terms in the last year or two.
hahaha
Re: what is this?
What's so funny about the car? Except for the headlights and the CGT'esque front hood it is a very nice concept. The design was developed in Germany, if I remember correctly from the same person that also shaped the YES-roadster.
I could imagine that there are a lot of people in the Islamic region with enough money who would be willing to buy this car! And Mercedes, especially their engines, have a very high reputation in these countries!
Anyways, it's true that there are way too many sportscar manufacturers out there right now and I don't think many will be on the scene for a long time!
I could imagine that there are a lot of people in the Islamic region with enough money who would be willing to buy this car! And Mercedes, especially their engines, have a very high reputation in these countries!
Anyways, it's true that there are way too many sportscar manufacturers out there right now and I don't think many will be on the scene for a long time!
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Moogle said:hoping someone will see right past the lack of heritage/history/emotion that supercars require, and see only the pricetag, and thusly, associate that with the aformentioned musts.
What heritage & history did the Koenigsegg have?
Face it, you think it's ridiculous to pay that much money for a car made in Morocco
Oct 5, 2004 4:27:00 PM
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Re: what is this?
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Ferdie said:
What's so funny about the car? Except for the headlights and the CGT'esque front hood it is a very nice concept. The design was developed in Germany, if I remember correctly from the same person that also shaped the YES-roadster.
I could imagine that there are a lot of people in the Islamic region with enough money who would be willing to buy this car! And Mercedes, especially their engines, have a very high reputation in these countries!
Anyways, it's true that there are way too many sportscar manufacturers out there right now and I don't think many will be on the scene for a long time!
in the Islamic region? 7th continent?
The truth is the external design is not the reason to buy the sport car.
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Ferdie said:
What's so funny about the car? Except for the headlights and the CGT'esque front hood it is a very nice concept. The design was developed in Germany, if I remember correctly from the same person that also shaped the YES-roadster.
I could imagine that there are a lot of people in the Islamic region with enough money who would be willing to buy this car! And Mercedes, especially their engines, have a very high reputation in these countries!
Anyways, it's true that there are way too many sportscar manufacturers out there right now and I don't think many will be on the scene for a long time!
Nothing funny about this car, its just the way it looks like its going to cry...So Morgan Aero new model has very strange front lights that dont seem face straight - however I know its just an optical illusion
Anyway, there are two ways to do it in my view - one is to create an exclusive, almost unreal form factor and then guess what - put engine and other main parts from Merc (AMG), FORD etc. engine and that what you have in that picture and the second one create a car with unique, tuned for that specific car engine, handling etc. (see Porsche, Ferrari etc.)
So is it this a sport car in the picture - not really in my view. does it look cool, yes I would say so
Oct 5, 2004 8:04:15 PM
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Re: what is this?
out of the 300k~ manufactuers that have barely any heritage/etc
there are pagani with the zonda, zonda s and zonda s roadster
the koenigsegg CC8, to a certain extent, bristol fighter, and various others incredibly small companies such as Ascari.
they are all mid engine supercar type cars that are well in the 300k+ range
from a history, etc standpoint they are all more or less the same
i would choose the The Zonda S roadster, or Koeniggsegg because they have the most street credit.
ie, the zonda is superexotic, with the AMG engine and famous carbon fiber, also it was featured in that videogame Gran Turismo 3.
the koenigsegg was in the 2004 gumball 3000 and recieved much press coverage
the rest of the mentioned cars including the one in this thread, are mainly infants in terms of brand development, and would only be viable choices if they were free.
Tom
there are pagani with the zonda, zonda s and zonda s roadster
the koenigsegg CC8, to a certain extent, bristol fighter, and various others incredibly small companies such as Ascari.
they are all mid engine supercar type cars that are well in the 300k+ range
from a history, etc standpoint they are all more or less the same
i would choose the The Zonda S roadster, or Koeniggsegg because they have the most street credit.
ie, the zonda is superexotic, with the AMG engine and famous carbon fiber, also it was featured in that videogame Gran Turismo 3.
the koenigsegg was in the 2004 gumball 3000 and recieved much press coverage
the rest of the mentioned cars including the one in this thread, are mainly infants in terms of brand development, and would only be viable choices if they were free.
Tom
Re: what is this?
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lev said:Quote:
Ferdie said:
What's so funny about the car? Except for the headlights and the CGT'esque front hood it is a very nice concept. The design was developed in Germany, if I remember correctly from the same person that also shaped the YES-roadster.
I could imagine that there are a lot of people in the Islamic region with enough money who would be willing to buy this car! And Mercedes, especially their engines, have a very high reputation in these countries!
Anyways, it's true that there are way too many sportscar manufacturers out there right now and I don't think many will be on the scene for a long time!
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in the Islamic region? 7th continent?
The truth is the external design is not the reason to buy the sport car.
Lev, sorry but I didn't get the point! I was honest with my comment!
The Mercedes engine is an extremely valuable advantage of this car - even if it is supplied by Brabus! Pagani uses an AMG-variant and there's nothing wrong with it! I don't even think that these engines are much heavier than the Enzo engine for example. The CGT's one is a marvel, no comment on that!
I don't actually think that the car looks that bad. Here are some other pictures. If you commented badly about the front, what will you say about the rear?
Just to make sure - I am not consequently in favour for that car and I might not even consider to buy it - but to me it is quite remarkable what they achieved. Even more remarkable to me is that they didn't style it on their own but left it to someone experienced!
Moogle, how many car manufacturers still have a true tradition? What about the Bugatti. Even the EB110 had no connection to the previous models from the 30ies, even the headquarter was in a different country!
Companies can only build up reputation by achieving something spectacular. Ferrari and Aston Martin did so, of course the same wit Porsche and even Lamborghini.
How many others can you take into account on that issue?
Greetings!
Re: what is this?
for me, once a car's price is about double/triple what it costs to produce it, after that, the additional asking prices must be justified with heritage, historical achievements, history, and to a lesser extend, independance (all of which porsche has in spades , even over, dare i say, ferrari - which is now a fiat 'division' ).
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Re: what is this?
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lev said:
Sorry I was just joking. Man this car LOOKS great
I was just trying to tell that the so called super expensive super cars ar divided into two categories, that you explained the same way I see it
Referring to your 7th continent comment - I guess I got it by now. I was trying to say that there are a lot of people in the Islamic culture with abundance of wealth - which not consequently has to be in Africa...
I don't even think that it is mainly about earning money - I could imagine that it is a very eliterian circle of car enthusiasts that build this car for prestige. Most companies start saving on the design - I should try to gather some information about their connections with Brabus and the design studio I mentioned above...
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