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    991.2 GTS

    Borrowed link from different thread here.

    http://www.total911.com/exclusive-porsche-991-2-targa-gts-spied/

    Intro mid summer. Start of sales autumn. 450ps.

    Btw, very interesting seats...


    Re: 991.2 GTS

    Seen a targa recently. Really nice looking car. Costs way too much though. I'd pay $70K for one.


    Re: 991.2 GTS

    Just wait 3 years from new and they are there...


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    KresoF1:

    Btw, very interesting seats...

    Looks like 996 GT3 seats Smiley


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    bluelines:
    KresoF1:

    Btw, very interesting seats...

    Looks like 996 GT3 seats Smiley

    Great minds think alike... Smiley


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    The sport kit bumper looks much better now in 991.2! 


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    This is going to be a very fast car ...... 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


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    Gnil:

    This is going to be a very fast car ...... 

    991.1 GT3 level...straight line. On the track, a tiny bit faster. On road tires. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: 991.2 GTS

    RC:
    Gnil:

    This is going to be a very fast car ...... 

    991.1 GT3 level...straight line. On the track, a tiny bit faster. On road tires. Smiley

    On Cup tires, a tiny bit faster than the RS angrysmiley Without its side indicators popping out Smiley


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: 991.2 GTS

    indecision Yes, the 991.2 GTS will be pretty fast but wait, the 991.2 GT3 and GT3 RS are coming as well, so... 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


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    each new Porsche (in the line) is faster - you don´t need to be a rocket scientist to predict this wink


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    ALDO:

    each new Porsche (in the line) is faster - you don´t need to be a rocket scientist to predict this wink

    I didn't predict this, I stated a mere fact based on current (development) numbers. Smiley

    The real breakthrough will be the next 911 Turbo generation...just wait and see. Weissach isn't pleased with the 488 GTB and it's stellar performance but in my opinion, they are a bit late to the game. Let's see how this plays out for them.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


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    RC:
    ALDO:

    each new Porsche (in the line) is faster - you don´t need to be a rocket scientist to predict this wink

    I didn't predict this, I stated a mere fact based on current (development) numbers. Smiley

    The real breakthrough will be the next 911 Turbo generation...just wait and see. Weissach isn't pleased with the 488 GTB and it's stellar performance but in my opinion, they are a bit late to the game. Let's see how this plays out for them.

    We've heard this loads of time from Porsche with their rubbish talk that they are not happy with the performance of the competitions car being better than theirs, next TurboS won't have more that 590bhp and that's being conservative.


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    Italo:
     next TurboS won't have more that 590bhp and that's being conservative.

    So, you are predicting an increase of 10hp or 1.7%????Smiley


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


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    If the 991.2 GT2RS is close to 700hp then the next 992 TTS must have at least 640hp with electric turbos and many other advanced upgrades including the interior. 


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    2013 BMW 750 xDrive & 2014 x5 & 2014 991 TTS Cab 2014 BMW i3 2017 Porsche Mission E & 991.2 GT3 on order


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    The next Turbo S will have wayyyy over 600 hp total system power. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)

     


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    RC:

    The next Turbo S will have wayyyy over 600 hp total system power. 

     

    That is sounding like confirmation of hybrid power? 


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


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    Grant:
    RC:

    The next Turbo S will have wayyyy over 600 hp total system power. 

     

    That is sounding like confirmation of hybrid power? 

    For sure... Smiley


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    I thought Porsche executives recently indicated they were NOT going to continue with the hp race.yes


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    nberry:

    I thought Porsche executives recently indicated they were NOT going to continue with the hp race.yes

    ....ah, but battery powered horses don't count, you see.  Smiley


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    2011 Range Rover Sport S/C,  2009 Porsche 911S


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    I hate hybrids, the 991 TT or TTS aren't on my list of potential cars, but with hybrid the interest is even less.


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    bluelines:
    RC:
    Gnil:

    This is going to be a very fast car ...... 

    991.1 GT3 level...straight line. On the track, a tiny bit faster. On road tires. Smiley

    On Cup tires, a tiny bit faster than the RS angrysmiley Without its side indicators popping out Smiley

    and with the porsche tuned dyson sound!


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    pmarkow:
    bluelines:
    RC:
    Gnil:

    This is going to be a very fast car ...... 

    991.1 GT3 level...straight line. On the track, a tiny bit faster. On road tires. Smiley

    On Cup tires, a tiny bit faster than the RS angrysmiley Without its side indicators popping out Smiley

    and with the porsche tuned dyson sound!

    We don't buy performance cars for their performance anymore ..... Soon any BWD sedan will lap the ring in sub 7:30 . We buy them for the emotions and feelings . 


    --

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


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    nberry:

    I thought Porsche executives recently indicated they were NOT going to continue with the hp race.yes

    Well...electric hp don't count. Smiley Smiley

    It is already a huge challenge to keep the car with the new tech at a similar weight as the current one, so they weight isn't supposed to increase, petrol engine hp is going to increase slightly (if not even get lower) but total power will be enough to make the owner happy, at least this is what I heard. The next 911 Turbo/S will be a true next generation 911, just wait and see. This also includes the interior. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)

     


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    Gnil:
    pmarkow:
    bluelines:
    RC:
    Gnil:

    This is going to be a very fast car ...... 

    991.1 GT3 level...straight line. On the track, a tiny bit faster. On road tires. Smiley

    On Cup tires, a tiny bit faster than the RS angrysmiley Without its side indicators popping out Smiley

    and with the porsche tuned dyson sound!

    We don't buy performance cars for their performance anymore ..... Soon any BWD sedan will lap the ring in sub 7:30 . We buy them for the emotions and feelings . 

    +1

    ....until we get overtaken by that BMW on the Ring Smiley


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    Technically, at some point, there will be ESP systems which allow the driver to floor the throttle and drive on the Nordschleife at full speed without even proper knowledge of the quirks of the track and/or the behavior of the car.

    I remember my first test-drive with the McLaren 12C and how impressed I was with the traction control and ESP setup. It may sound a bit exaggerated but I could basically press the throttle and the ESP did the rest of the job... angry A much more sophisticated system could easily compensate for driver error/skills and other stuff, incl. GPS controlled street/track adaptation. Sounds like the future? I am pretty sure it will be possible soon.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


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    RC:

    Technically, at some point, there will be ESP systems which allow the driver to floor the throttle and drive on the Nordschleife at full speed without even proper knowledge of the quirks of the track and/or the behavior of the car.

    I remember my first test-drive with the McLaren 12C and how impressed I was with the traction control and ESP setup. It may sound a bit exaggerated but I could basically press the throttle and the ESP did the rest of the job... angry A much more sophisticated system could easily compensate for driver error/skills and other stuff, incl. GPS controlled street/track adaptation. Sounds like the future? I am pretty sure it will be possible soon.

    Then we can send our cars to the track while we control it from home comfortably on the couch laugh


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: 991.2 GTS

    bluelines:
    Gnil:
    pmarkow:
    bluelines:
    RC:
    Gnil:

    This is going to be a very fast car ...... 

    991.1 GT3 level...straight line. On the track, a tiny bit faster. On road tires. Smiley

    On Cup tires, a tiny bit faster than the RS angrysmiley Without its side indicators popping out Smiley

    and with the porsche tuned dyson sound!

    We don't buy performance cars for their performance anymore ..... Soon any BWD sedan will lap the ring in sub 7:30 . We buy them for the emotions and feelings . 

    +1

    ....until we get overtaken by that BMW on the Ring Smiley

    Smiley And then we can only cry and kick our GT.. 's 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


    Re: 991.2 GTS

    RC:

    Technically, at some point, there will be ESP systems which allow the driver to floor the throttle and drive on the Nordschleife at full speed without even proper knowledge of the quirks of the track and/or the behavior of the car.

     

    in all seriousness, there will be in the not too distant future full track specific autonomous modes in most highest performance street sports cars processing billions of bits of  ambient, track,tire, etc data per second where owners can choose to just safely " race " their empty cockpit cars against each other watching and / or drinking from the paddock or lounge or even more remotely from their work office half way around the world 

    Smiley


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    Re: 991.2 GTS

    Gnil:
    bluelines:
    Gnil:
    pmarkow:
    bluelines:
    RC:
    Gnil:

    This is going to be a very fast car ...... 

    991.1 GT3 level...straight line. On the track, a tiny bit faster. On road tires. Smiley

    On Cup tires, a tiny bit faster than the RS angrysmiley Without its side indicators popping out Smiley

    and with the porsche tuned dyson sound!

    We don't buy performance cars for their performance anymore ..... Soon any BWD sedan will lap the ring in sub 7:30 . We buy them for the emotions and feelings . 

    +1

    ....until we get overtaken by that BMW on the Ring Smiley

    Smiley And then we can only cry and kick our GT.. 's 

    What lap time do you and blue do around the ring, Gnil. Are you 2 quick or can you only manage hairdresser laps Smiley Smiley.


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    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.


     
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