I really like the looks of it, but there are some real weak spots:
Only time will tell how obvious those weak spots will be upon viewing the car in real life. In my experience, those issues which look really pronounced in pictures can become unimportant details when seen in real life.
Porsche, separates Le Mans from Le Boys
28-nov-2018 9.14.11
28-nov-2018 9.15.24
It's good to see they have listened to some previous criticisms on small details such as giving the option to specify black callipers on an S model where the standard red clashed badly with a number of exterior colours, offering contrast stitching with most of the leather options and reducing the amount of stitching that is in the contrast colour to take account of the fact the 911 has a relatively small cabin. I doubt 991.2 GT3 RS owners will be pleased to see Lizard Green as an optional colour on the new Carrera models but the precedent was already set for that with Lava Orange in the 991.2 range. Nice to see that somebody in Porsche also listened and gave us the option of a dark green again with Aventurine Green making a return from the 993.
Less impressive is that a rear parking camera and active cruise are still relatively expensive options when they really should be standard on a car at this price point and a no cost delete option for those looking to spec the lightest car possible.
The price of a fairly modestly optioned S appears to have jumped quite a bit.
28-nov-2018 10.48.48
28-nov-2018 10.49.38
The interior looks more modern which is a good thing as this is a new gen but the problem is that is also looks less sporty. More in line with a small Panamera sedan than a 911, but to be fair it is very hard to judge from pictures so will postpone judgement until I sit in one, also the color and trim options on the pictures does not help it at all, other option combos may give a sportier impression.
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⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS
28-nov-2018 11.01.39
I like it a lot, it's a huge improvement compared to the 991. Also Porsche nailed it with these little reminiscences from older models such as the pronounced hips that you can identify from the above view.
There are details that I don't like though, like the rear brake light or the rear spoiler deployed, both look weird. Hopefully they will fix this "issues" with the .2.
In general we are talking about a very good looking car, good proportions in its lines and a lovely and modern interior. Can't wait to see more special versions, a GT3 Touring would be the best modern P to date.
28-nov-2018 11.28.10
28-nov-2018 11.28.19
G. Kacher obviously was right when he said in his preview article that this time the engineers did take a back seat while the designers took the lead in the 992 development process. At least I can not spot any tech news regarding driving dynamics / performance. Must be the first time in Porsche history that an outgoing Carrera Version (991.2 GTS) is faster than the new model (992 S) although engine and hp is equal (3.0L 450 hp for both) and although 991.2 GTS does not feature any "go faster tech" in the suspension department compared to the 992. Actually one would expect an advantage for the 992 here due to the wider track / fatter rubber, but maybe this advantage is eaten by the +55 kg additional weight. Of course final assessment has to wait until real world performance tests have been conducted but I assumed that Henry Cachpole's mentioning of an 5 sec advantage on the Nordschleife (992 S compared to the 991.2 S) is legit (I guess it's the factory claim). Not that it really matters as all modern Carreras are fast enough anyway for what they are made for (having fun on public roads) but it may be a sign that development ressources these days primarily are spend elsewhere and not aimed anymore in winning the IMHO ridiculous HP war or gaining further significant lap time progress on the Nordschleife.
Daily Driver 991 Carrera T (June 2018), Canyon Carver 981 Spyder, Track Machine 997 GT3
28-nov-2018 11.34.10
28-nov-2018 12.04.51
28-nov-2018 12.49.26
Porsche-Jeck:Sad picture - Autobahn crash today. According to the news a BMW X5 driver pushed the Porsche into the guardrail while being overtaken (maybe a typical blind spot thing). Most important though is nobody was hurt. What I found strange is that the article mentioned a damage of 128 kEUR: very unusual to mention such an exact number....maybe indicative for the german pricetag for a 992 Carrera S ?
Rennteam at its best: Base price of the new Carrera S: 127.979 Euro.
We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
28-nov-2018 13.34.59
absent:All in all a nice and safe evolution, very tastefully done without offending any hardcore 911 fans.
I'm sure will drive fabulously too..
+55kg extra on the S cars is offensive to me
can't wait to see the fat GT cars now...
GT Lover, Porsche fan
991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)
Cayenne GTS 2014
spudgun:Just configured my 992 2S online, basic chassis options ticked and came out at 145€
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997.2 4S / BMW X5 40e / Donkervoort GT
The exterior is really more of a 991 facelift than a new model. It is OK but nothing to get excited about.
I like the new interior though.
A Carrera S with all essential dynamic extras (which should have been standard equipment) adds up to €135.000 before ceramic brakes and interior upgrades.
Too expensive when you consider that the BMW M850i costs €125.000 all inclusive.
"Porsche....and Nothing else matters"
28-nov-2018 13.56.33
Wonderbar:I don’t understand the comment that the new 992 S is slower than the old 991.2 GTS. Can someone help me? Porsche says that the new 992 is five seconds faster around the Nurburgring than the old version. Was the 991 GTS that much faster than the 991 S?
Yes, according to the Sportauto hot lap numbers, 991.2 GTS was 10 sec faster than 991.2 S (just ask bluelines about his "GT3 Killah" ).
Daily Driver 991 Carrera T (June 2018), Canyon Carver 981 Spyder, Track Machine 997 GT3
28-nov-2018 14.00.43
Rossi:Porsche-Jeck:Sad picture - Autobahn crash today. According to the news a BMW X5 driver pushed the Porsche into the guardrail while being overtaken (maybe a typical blind spot thing). Most important though is nobody was hurt. What I found strange is that the article mentioned a damage of 128 kEUR: very unusual to mention such an exact number....maybe indicative for the german pricetag for a 992 Carrera S ?
Rennteam at its best: Base price of the new Carrera 4S: 127.979 Euro.
Fixed that for you.......but hahaha, so the journos were spot on - it was just me mistaking the 992 4S for the 992 S (well, Porsche's fault as they all look the same now)
Daily Driver 991 Carrera T (June 2018), Canyon Carver 981 Spyder, Track Machine 997 GT3
28-nov-2018 14.02.28
The UK configurator is now live with the new 992. I configured the same car on the German and UK sites. On the German site it comes to 142,110.25 euros. On the UK site the same spec is £107,842.00 which equates to 121,688.73 euros. German customers may want to try and order a LHD car from a UK dealer with that level of price difference. The UK standard spec is higher with full leather included as standard.