the-missile:
RC, you make me dream 
and your visionof this world is sometime fascinating.
why the hell the entire world is not buying LV, Gucci and Dior
and getting cheap Zara stuff 
because money is not flowing for like 99.9% of the world maybe 
Do you really think I buy LV, Gucci and Dior only? 
A Range Rover Evoque is a small and affordable SUV in my book, not a luxury car. I mean every middle class family drives a family car at least worth 70-80k EUR over here and I doubt they even touch LV, Gucci or Dior products.
Dacia was crap till Renault put it back on track to a decent entry level manufacturer while maintaining costs low because of large usage of parts coming from different models. it is a success. you can deny it but it is a fact.
It is a success because it is cheap, it is somewhat reliable tech (no wonder, there is no real tech there ) and it has been accompanied by a very clever advertisement campaign.
I am very interested to know your first car as a beginner and who paid for it? I can tell you my story, I sometime used my mom's car till I got money to purchase my own. My parents were cool to basically giving me the right to sometime used their car 
as afterall it was their tool to go to work and it was just fun for me...
My first car was a used Lancia, it broke down after 200 km because the dealer threw in an oil exchange but forgot to actually add oil after the let the oil out. I know, I know...how could I not "get" it but the car came fresh out of the dealership, so why would I check the oil level? Also no warning light. Luckily, the dealer was a customer of my parents and took the blame (it was his fault), so he took the car back. In return, my parents got me a brand-new Fiat 127 Sport with 75 hp, a real rocket at that time (0-100 kph in 12 seconds). For a reason: I was supposed to start university and I had no car, so they bought me a brand-new car, so no more surprises. This was always the mentality in our family: Education (school) comes first, everything else is not that important. Like money. 
Why giving your kid something you will never want?
because different usage, different goal and giving responsibilities to the newbie...with limited exposure to yourself. the boy will be at the door step in 2 years, he is car nuts, what will be his daily? AMG? Porsche? 
My boy wants a V8 pickup right now and my wife promised him one if he finishes school with a certain grade. Not very likely though . I would never get him something very fast but at some point, he needs to learn how to drive. I will make sure that he gets the proper training but no Mustang GT or Porsche for him, this is for sure. Not even a VW Golf R. 
Btw: The son of a good acquittance got an A45 from his grandpa, no kidding. We were already joking that he is going to crash and die in this car. He has it for over a year now, not even an accident. He did several driving training courses with the car. I was driving a Lancia Delta HF Integrale at age 19, OK...professionally but a couple of months later privately as well. Dangerous car, no ESP, fast as hell, no accidents but slid once over all four wheels into a field.
or you can stop turning around and give her the R8. this is the supercar that you praise, she is not crazy, you don't use it everyday and it is already in the garage. E63 same story.
She likes the R8 but her dream car is the Huracan...
You love watches, especially super luxury watches, the day one of your kid will ask for one will be fun.
Are you kidding me, I basically had to force them to get an Apple watch (and I gave up with my son since he never wore his...series 1, so I never got him one again)?!
Like I said before, you don't know my kids at all. I wish everyone had kids like them, less worries and less fights for parents in this world.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)
and the sentence he wrote clearly calls for fight 
before even getting the car 
Impossible. 
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