Carlos from Spain:
My install cannot be detected unless you take the car to a body shop to take it apart, and you need probable cause for that, and there is none available in the first place by just inspection so no problem there.
I always notice the laser jammer... The problem isn't necessary what can be seen and what not but the people who install it or the repair shop where you bring your car to for maintenance. Told you, they busted a guy who had an argument with his mechanic, the same night the police was in front of his garage. Coincidence? Doubtful.
But laser jammers are indeed another story, no matter how you try to hide theme they can be easily detected by visual inspection if you know what to look for since the laser receiver and emitter need to have a clear sight of the road to work, a radar detector antena does not, it can be under the bumper's plastic. Also the laser gun can throw off a laser jamming code when being inhibited by a jammer depending on the model and can alert to the cop inmediately that you are using one and will stop you. Also the fine for jammer is often time much more worse than the fine for using a radar detector, for example here in Spain is 6 month driver licence and several thousand Euro fine, but for a radar detector is like 150€ I think. Definitely agree not to mess with laser jammers, I have several models over the years but not since while I don't use them anymore.
Oh...told you...a good system without a laser jammer isn't a good system. My Cayenne Turbo S had four laser jammers, two around the license plate and the other two around the front lights. Worked flawlessly.
In Spain at least, eyes is not enough by a long shot, and radar detectors alone aren't either, because of all the different type of speed traps they use. For example they have adapted helicopters that used a laser guided camera that can detect your speed while hovering high in the sky from 1Km away, no chance to see it while you are driving. Also they have a new remote laser trap, velolaser, its a small discrete little box that is autonomous, it simply attaches via a magnet for example to a guard rail, post or whatever and will detect speeders via laser and send the pictures via internet to the police, so you don't see any cops in the area and catches cars from behind, so it doesn't have to be visible on approach, it can be hidden behind something so imposible to see anything unless you have x-ray vision, and once you passed it it catches you. And no early warning of any kind with any laser detector posible. Then there is the Multaradar C which is K-band but very difficult to detect for many detectors and in a band with many many false signals from civilian sources. I could go on but its not good... I'm sure its similar in other EU countries.
Yep, police finds more and more ways to screw us but to be honest, sometimes, they are right. There are some drivers here in Germany...oh boy...I would take their license instantly. Incredible how stupid and dangerous, even if there is no speed limit. Last weekend, I was driving on the left lane on the Autobahn behind six or seven cars at around 150 kph, a guy passed us on the right with at least 40-50 kph faster. Unbelievable and so dangerous, especially because this is completely forbidden in Germany (passing on the right on the Autobahn, with very few exceptions at lower speeds) and many don't expect to see such a fast moving car on the right lane passing them on the right.
Also saw a young guy downtown yesterday, I was already doing 58 in a 50 zone and he passed me at 100 or so, no kidding and ignored a red light in front of him. Maybe he was drunk but I think he just didn't see the red light at that speed in the city. Thank god there wasn't much traffic.
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