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    Aug 30, 2004 4:31:12 PM

    StradaleF1
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    A question...

    Hello Friends,

    Does anybody know which function this thing has( not aerodynamically)?

    Pictures:

    Aug 30, 2004 4:32:01 PM

    StradaleF1
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    Re: A question...

    One more:

    Aug 30, 2004 4:32:31 PM

    StradaleF1
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    Re: A question...

    And the last:

    Aug 30, 2004 4:35:37 PM

    PC_Oldskool
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    Re: A question...

    My guess is that it helps vent the lower engine compartment, keeping the oil pan cool.

    Aug 30, 2004 4:45:54 PM

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    Re: A question...

    OK, thanks so you could not have the exhaust there like this picture shows:

    Aug 30, 2004 5:32:42 PM

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    Re: A question...

    It's the box were the gearbox lifes in!

    Best whishes

    Floren.

    Aug 30, 2004 5:43:12 PM

    StradaleF1
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    Re: A question...

    Quote:
    floren said:
    It's the box were the gearbox lifes in!

    Best whishes

    Floren.


    Arhh... Thanks. So you could not also have the exhaust there?

    Aug 30, 2004 6:01:17 PM

    Rossi
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    Re: A question...

    Quote:
    floren said:
    It's the box were the gearbox lifes in!

    Best whishes

    Floren.



    That's right! Take a look at the back of the 355: there you can see the gearbox without the box.

    Aug 30, 2004 6:03:47 PM

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    Re: A question...

    Sorry Rossi, no picture...

    Aug 30, 2004 6:40:14 PM

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    Re: A question...

    Quote:
    StradaleF1 said:
    Sorry Rossi, no picture...



    Sorry, I was still searching. Look here:

    Aug 30, 2004 8:23:40 PM

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    Re: A question...

    Thanks Rossi,
    That's interesting, so that's what it is on the Gallardo then.
    Although I have notived that on the Gallardo it is tilted. Weird...
    Stradale F1 is right then, the Enzo drawing could have not been possible then.
    What about the Boxster though? Gearbox behind the engine AND central exhaust? Same for the Elise actually.

    Aug 30, 2004 9:44:20 PM

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    Re: A question...

    Hmmm... maybe you could have the exhaust there if there was space between the gearbox and the exhaust...?

    Thanks for all those great answers - and the 355 picture, rossi...

    Aug 31, 2004 7:08:18 AM

    Rossi
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    Re: A question...

    The F40 has also a central exhaust, but I think the whole exhaust is placed above the gearbox.

    Aug 31, 2004 1:56:27 PM

    StradaleF1
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    Re: A question...

    Quote:
    rossi said:
    The F40 has also a central exhaust, but I think the whole exhaust is placed above the gearbox.


    It is, but look this picture. It was the last running prototypes as far as I know and also the final design concepts before Enzo.

    Aug 31, 2004 2:21:17 PM

    StradaleF1
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    Re: A question...

    I've made a quick drawing here:

    Aug 31, 2004 3:12:38 PM

    Rossi
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    Re: A question...

    Great pics StradaleF1, never seen them before!

    BTW, nice engine drawing on the other sketch.

    Aug 31, 2004 5:00:44 PM

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    Re: A question...

    Quote:
    rossi said:
    Great pics StradaleF1, never seen them before!

    BTW, nice engine drawing on the other sketch.


    Thanks rossi. What do you think - could it be possible with the exhaust and gearbox so close to each other.

    Here is one more which is interesting:

    Aug 31, 2004 5:09:21 PM

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    Re: A question...

    Quote:
    rossi said:
    The F40 has also a central exhaust, but I think the whole exhaust is placed above the gearbox.


    Found a picture:

    Aug 31, 2004 5:11:13 PM

    StradaleF1
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    Re: A question...

    1 more (with a new exhaust system):

    Aug 31, 2004 6:08:17 PM

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    Re: A question...

    Hmmm - not sure if an exhaust will fit in the new cars, above the gearbox. But anyway... I like the difusor back a lot - so even if it is a dummy.... it looks awful great!

    L@rs

    Aug 31, 2004 6:43:18 PM

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    Re: A question...

    Quote:
    Lars996 said:
    Hmmm - not sure if an exhaust will fit in the new cars, above the gearbox. But anyway... I like the difusor back a lot - so even if it is a dummy.... it looks awful great!

    [Email]L@rs[/Email]


    Well, that's the thing! I like this way of having the exhaust in the diffuserpanel. Like this:

    Sep 1, 2004 9:21:35 AM

    Rossi
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    Re: A question...

    I think that could bring some problems with overheating.
    Personally I prefer the double exhaust at each corner, I don't really like the central ones.

    Sep 1, 2004 11:49:49 AM

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    Re: A question...

    The 360, just like the Boxster, has a central muffler with the exhaust tipes protruding out to the side OR both to the middle. It shouldn't be a problem to convert this in terms of exhaust technology.
    If you see the picture below it is clearly visible that the muffler is placed surprisingly high in the engine compartment. I strongly assume that it is for cooling reasons also. You receive a warning in the 360 going close to redline in 6th due to the risk of catalysts overheating.

    I guess the heating is quite an issue on the 360, considering how many people installe the Challenge grille on the car!

    Sep 8, 2004 5:46:00 PM

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    Re: A question...

    Found some interesting photos:

    Sep 8, 2004 5:49:50 PM

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    Re: A question...

    Last (you can also see the gaerbox):
     
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