Re: Belgian F1 Grand Prix at Spa
I'm still rooting for Ferrari to hold on to the contructors championship, but wouldn't mind seeing new drivers for next season.
Sep 9, 2008 12:40:54 PM
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racerx said:
From an impartial observer, i have barely watched f1 lately, and am not a ferrari team fan at all.
but A penalty for lh here was deserved.
He did not have to cut the chicane at all, could have followed kimi. then he barely gave the position back.
An impetuous rookie move by a non rookie.
Sep 9, 2008 1:34:28 PM
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marco stradale said:
Sep 9, 2008 3:47:19 PM
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cgt said:
We all know the level of dislike between Mosley and McLaren, and one of the chief stewards just happens to be Alan Donelly, who is completely in Max's pocket and will only do what MM wants.
Sep 9, 2008 4:03:37 PM
Sep 9, 2008 4:59:59 PM
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McLaren boss Ron Dennis revealed to ITV Sport after the race that the team had checked with FIA race director Charlie Whiting that Hamilton had conformed to the rules, which require any advantage gained by short-cutting the course to be promptly rectified.
"Inevitably, we wanted to know whether that was deemed to be a correction so we checked with Charlie," Dennis told ITV Sport's Ted Kravitz.
"Of course Charlie can only give an opinion because he's not the stewards, but he gave the opinion that we had complied properly to the regulations ."
In a statement released on Tuesday, Whitmarsh said the team was in fact given two separate assurances that Hamilton had behaved correctly - and that, had it not been given the thumbs-up, it would have told its driver to let Raikkonen back through.
"From the pit wall, we then asked Race Control to confirm that they were comfortable that Lewis had allowed Kimi to repass, and they confirmed twice that they believed that the position had been given back in a manner that was 'okay'," said Whitmarsh.
"If Race Control had instead expressed any concern regarding Lewis's actions at that time, we would have instructed Lewis to allow Kimi to repass for a second time."
Sep 9, 2008 5:11:35 PM
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McLaren boss Ron Dennis revealed to ITV Sport after the race that the team had checked with FIA race director Charlie Whiting that Hamilton had conformed to the rules, which require any advantage gained by short-cutting the course to be promptly rectified.
"Inevitably, we wanted to know whether that was deemed to be a correction so we checked with Charlie," Dennis told ITV Sport's Ted Kravitz.
"Of course Charlie can only give an opinion because he's not the stewards, but he gave the opinion that we had complied properly to the regulations ."
In a statement released on Tuesday, Whitmarsh said the team was in fact given two separate assurances that Hamilton had behaved correctly - and that, had it not been given the thumbs-up, it would have told its driver to let Raikkonen back through.
"From the pit wall, we then asked Race Control to confirm that they were comfortable that Lewis had allowed Kimi to repass, and they confirmed twice that they believed that the position had been given back in a manner that was 'okay'," said Whitmarsh.
"If Race Control had instead expressed any concern regarding Lewis's actions at that time, we would have instructed Lewis to allow Kimi to repass for a second time."
Source: http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=43885
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Dr. Phil said:
NEWS: Massa pours more gasoline on the fire:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SPORT/09/09/felipe.massa.lewis.hamilton/index.html?section=cnn_latest
McLaren seem to give up their protest:
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080909103423.shtml
Sep 10, 2008 9:45:59 AM
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Emperor said:
Hey guys. Check this video out. Shumi and De la Rosa in 2005. Shumi cut the chicane but no penalty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UnPeyzcHM
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Emperor said:
Hey guys. Check this video out. Shumi and De la Rosa in 2005. Shumi cut the chicane but no penalty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UnPeyzcHM
That's exactly the same and MS didn't let him by. lol Comedy.
Sep 11, 2008 10:41:32 AM
Sep 11, 2008 10:59:25 AM
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rosso nuvola said:
I used to thing that Alonso was a arrogant son of a B, but i was wrong he is actually ok , i mean he is what he is , he frontal in what he says and does ...
Now HAMilton prentends to be this nice kid , but he actulaly is just arrogant in thinking he is the only smart guy in this planet... " i was hoping for the rain becausa i know how to deal with it" " Kimi pushed me out"
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNN5W_B-Zk
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marco stradale said:
Such a pitty there wasn't a tractor there to pick up Raikkonen and complete the race with him...It would have been quicker than the F1 cars in those conditions....... I really like Lewis but this constent conspiracy theory sh$t is getting a bit much.....If Lewis kept his head, he would have comfortably had Raikkonen later on.
Tractor? Like the one Hamilton used to get out of the sand trap, oh right! That one! But I'm sure they reserved it for him again.
Let's not be fanatical about things!
Even if for argument's sake,what happened with the "tractor" was wrong, it doesn't justify anyone to do a bigger mistake last Sunday. Two wrongs don't do one right.
It's like a football referee that wrongly disallows a goal as offside and then awards a penalty to make even. Both actions are wrong!
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marco stradale said:
Such a pitty there wasn't a tractor there to pick up Raikkonen and complete the race with him...It would have been quicker than the F1 cars in those conditions....... I really like Lewis but this constent conspiracy theory sh$t is getting a bit much.....If Lewis kept his head, he would have comfortably had Raikkonen later on.
Tractor? Like the one Hamilton used to get out of the sand trap, oh right! That one! But I'm sure they reserved it for him again.
Let's not be fanatical about things!
Even if for argument's sake,what happened with the "tractor" was wrong, it doesn't justify anyone to do a bigger mistake last Sunday. Two wrongs don't do one right.
It's like a football referee that wrongly disallows a goal as offside and then awards a penalty to make even. Both actions are wrong!
And that shows that those ridiculous conspiracy theories are just plain wrong.