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Aug 26, 2008 8:08:46 AM
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Re: Panamera Rearlight Camo?
Well that's what I've been saying all along. Porsche are keeping the tail lights sealed. The frog-eye graphic we see on the test mule is fake not to mention the fake plates covering the part of the lights stretching onto the side of the car. From the picture below we can see that the graphic will be similar to the 997 MkII with plenty of red surrounding a white rectangular reserve light LED. Test mules have never been about what you see, it's all about what's beneath it all.
Re: Panamera Rearlight Camo?
The only camo left on the rear of that black car is a fake panel that extends from the rear light down the side of the rear bumper to hide the continuation of the indent curve that is clearly visible running along the rear of the lower bumper. That's a good photo as it shows the curvature of the body side without camo. A hidden tailight design is not going to drastically change the look of the car I'm afraid. The rear looks pretty close to the Autobild pics of nearly 2 years ago which met a mixed reception when I posted them then. They just got the shape of the licence plate recess wrong and missed that body crease that runs below it. These things have most likely been changed since they got hold of these pics. Everthing else remains spot on - rear hatch shutlines, rear window shape, exhaust positioning and the rear valance detailing, body curvature around the tail lights, crease in front wing that runs into the doors etc.
Re: Panamera Rearlight Camo?
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They just got the shape of the licence plate recess wrong and missed that body crease that runs below it.
The rear bumper crease especially when the camo is removed and it continues to the side, changes the visual impression of the car a lot IMO.
It reduces the rear end heaviness.
Also a lot depends on the detailing that does not show on a black semi-disguised car.
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The front looks a little bit like a mixture between the Carrera GT and the current Cayenne (facelift) with a "touch" of 997 Turbo. The rear looks a bit japanese to me (this is why I meant "japanized") and reminds me a little bit of current Mazda limousines but of course it looks completely different. The rear part doesn't look quite exactly of how it looks in those mule/prototype pictures, the rear window is pretty flat for a limousine but the real deal looks more like a mixture between the current Mercedes CL and a hatchback/911, it is difficult to describe. The new panamera does NOT have a "real" hatchback rear, the prototypes are camouflaged. The rear is surprisingly 911-like and not, it is difficult to describe. The rear lights are actually much longer than they are in the pictures/photos of prototypes. It is diffult to describe it from my memory since I only had a 10-15 seconds time frame to look at the pictures before it was "removed".
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Aug 26, 2008 9:14:54 AM
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Re: Panamera Rearlight Camo?
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Crash,
I think this pic posted by emperor back in February confirms the rear is a hatch don't you?
No, I don't. I believe it's part of a massive disinformation campaign by Porsche to make people believe that the car will in fact have a hatch
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Aug 26, 2008 9:32:42 AM
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Maybe the RC's comment "does not have a "real" hatchback rear" meant that it doesn't have the look of a typical hatchback car.
Perhaps but only if compared to the more recent trend for small hatchbacks to have fairly upright rear end designs. The Panamera rear is pretty generic for hatchbacks of the 80's and early 90's but with the added Porsche 911 styling cue of exaggerated hips incorporating the rear lights.
The concept for the Opel Signum has a familiar outline shape of long passenger cabin with truncated and rounded rear.
And the Bugatti Royal concept uses it as well -
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The only camo left on the rear of that black car is a fake panel that extends from the rear light down the side of the rear bumper to hide the continuation of the indent curve that is clearly visible running along the rear of the lower bumper. That's a good photo as it shows the curvature of the body side without camo. A hidden tailight design is not going to drastically change the look of the car I'm afraid. The rear looks pretty close to the Autobild pics of nearly 2 years ago which met a mixed reception when I posted them then. They just got the shape of the licence plate recess wrong and missed that body crease that runs below it. These things have most likely been changed since they got hold of these pics. Everthing else remains spot on - rear hatch shutlines, rear window shape, exhaust positioning and the rear valance detailing, body curvature around the tail lights, crease in front wing that runs into the doors etc.
I suspect this green CG is more accurate. Autobild's chop is off especially if you look at the front end. This green CG on the other hand has the same contours on the hood as the test mule we saw last week and bare in mind that this CG is 3-4 months old. Shaping of the tail light is probably very near the real deal unlike the ones on Hucklefeldt's impression which makes the rear look more bloated and bulky. Other than that the rear hatch shut lines are real.
Aug 26, 2008 9:37:18 AM
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Some of the quirky design aspects of this car are the weird little pointy flaps on the hatch door, and the way the pointy rear window is not aligned with the rear door opening. (hard to describe - Not clear in these pictures)
I think you mean the way the rear passenger window line does not follow the shutline of the door skin but starts a new line of it's own. The Maserati Quattroprte has this too and it's a difficult panel to manufacture due to the steel pressing required for the C pillar but I think it looks good .
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Aug 26, 2008 9:47:41 AM
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Re: Panamera Rearlight Camo?
ISUK, there is a front shot that goes with this, someone posted them about 6 months ago on a panamera thread and we labled it a CROSSOVER. that is what it seems to be.
The panamera is a big, odd, ugly crossover. Wendell let me in on a secret. It will come in 2 colors, Mike's CGT color and black. School bus or hearse, take your pick.
I'll take the X6 in this category.
The panamera is a big, odd, ugly crossover. Wendell let me in on a secret. It will come in 2 colors, Mike's CGT color and black. School bus or hearse, take your pick.
I'll take the X6 in this category.
(only kidding guys)
Re: Panamera Rearlight Camo?
Don't forget these Autobild pictures are over 2 years old and published around the time when the test cars had only just broken cover and were in much heavier camo than they are now. Whoever produced them did a pretty accurate job of revealing the overall styling. They got the bonnet crease lines spot on along with the scallop down the sides, the shape of the glasshouse and the overall shape of the rear including the outline of the tailights I suspect. The front and rear bumpers were out but not by a huge amount against the much later green photoshop. In order to come up with such accurate renditions I suspect they were "given" leaked pictures of the early design drawings by Porsche in order to generate forward order interest in the car. The headlights on the silver car used the graphics of the 997 and Boxster as a template which wasn't an unreasonable assumption IMHO. It's been interesting watching the slow reveal over the intervening time period and the level of debate that the styling has caused.
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